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Old 04-15-2017, 12:11 PM   #1
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Yes, I was afraid that he should.
For the first time I see a direct negative effect of his presidency
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You do realize they could do all of this for the previous 8 years already. This just keeps the status quo.

You act like Trump signed a law that opened up a door for them. The door was already open. Obama was trying to close it in his last days of his presidency.

Were you bitching about it when for all of Obama's presidency it was that way? Doubtful. But, when Trump essentially allows the status quo all of a sudden its an issue.

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Broadband providers, meanwhile, said consumers had no reason to worry.

"We do not sell our broadband customers' individual web browsing history," Comcast said in a statement last week. "We did not do it before the FCC's rules were adopted, and we have no plans to do so."

(NBC News is a division of NBCUniversal, which is owned by Comcast Corp., the nation's largest cable provider.)

Similarly, Verizon said in a statement: "Verizon does not sell the personal web browsing history of our customers. We don't do it and that's the bottom line."
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You act like Trump signed a law that opened up a door for them. The door was already open. Obama was trying to close it in his last days of his presidency.

Were you bitching about it when for all of Obama's presidency it was that way? Doubtful. But, when Trump essentially allows the status quo all of a sudden its an issue.
You're amazing. ISPs could sell our personal information because there was no law preventing it. Obama tried to close that loophole, and here you are, blaming Obama for having the loophole in the first place!

We are complaining about it today because Obama tried to protect our privacy, and Trump is trying to promote Big Business. And, yes, we did complain about the lack of privacy eight years ago. You never heard about it, because we were smart enough to understand that it wasn't the President's fault.
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We are complaining about it today because Obama tried to protect our privacy, and Trump is trying to promote Big Business. And, yes, we did complain about the lack of privacy eight years ago. You never heard about it, because we were smart enough to understand that it wasn't the President's fault.
Same, more or less. I'm not concerned about the fact that ISPs can sell my browsing habits without my consent, I'm concerned about the fact that Congress and the President are so willing to defend that ability and block the FCC from requiring my consent. They aren't just on the side of the status quo, they're also against the people in this matter.
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One can argue that maybe, just maybe, Obama was dealing with more important things before he could get to this one.

Of course, then that just raises the question: why was this one of the first things that Republicans and Trump took on? At this rate, this is going to be his best legislative achievement in his first hundred days.
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why weren't you complaining about obama relinquishing control of the internet 6 months ago?
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why weren't you complaining about obama relinquishing control of the internet 6 months ago?
Because A) "relinquishing control of the internet" does not mean what you think it does, and B) the internet should not be in the control of only one country, and should be under the aegis of a multinational peace-keeping organization. We weren't complaining because it was a good idea.
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why was this one of the first things that Republicans and Trump took on?
Because trump is anti-Obama, and so are all of his supporters. So he is on a mission to remove everything Obama ever did, good or bad. He doesn't really care how beneficial the programs were, he wants them removed because Obama approved them, and for no other reason.

Believe me when I say, if he could, he'd bring bin Laden back to life.
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why was this one of the first things that Republicans and Trump took on?
Because trump is anti-Obama, and so are all of his supporters. So he is on a mission to remove everything Obama ever did, good or bad. He doesn't really care how beneficial the programs were, he wants them removed because Obama approved them, and for no other reason.

Believe me when I say, if he could, he'd bring bin Laden back to life.
Well that is obama's fault, he was the one to start ruling unilaterally like a dictator with executive orders, had his legacy been more than a bunch of EOs it wouldn't be so easy to undo everything that couldn't get through Congress in the first place
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One can argue that maybe, just maybe, Obama was dealing with more important things before he could get to this one.

Of course, then that just raises the question: why was this one of the first things that Republicans and Trump took on? At this rate, this is going to be his best legislative achievement in his first hundred days.
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Well that is obama's fault, he was the one to start ruling unilaterally like a dictator with executive orders
You really need to research things before you post. You get these ridiculous notions in your head because you heard that someone said that someone said someone overheard in a crowded bar and only half understood.

Of the past three Presidents, Obama had the lowest number of Executive Orders. Of the past seven Presidents, Obama was third lowest, and fourth lowest of the past ten Presidents, a title which he retains all the way to the beginning of the previous century.

Amortized over the length of his Presidency, Obama wrote 34.6 Executive Orders per year, or approximately one every ten days. From the time of his inauguration, Trump has written 23 Executive orders, or one every four days. Yet you think Obama is the king of Executive orders. Trump is the dictator, and is on track to produce more Executive Orders than Roosevelt (pick one).
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Eight years, apparently, before Obama got around to it. Not that it much matters, because Obama('s administration) did get around and did pass regulation protecting a customer's right to privacy in this regard, regulation which Congress and Trump are taking action to block.
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Well that is obama's fault, he was the one to start ruling unilaterally like a dictator with executive orders
You really need to research things before you post. You get these ridiculous notions in your head because you heard that someone said that someone said someone overheard in a crowded bar and only half understood.

Of the past three Presidents, Obama had the lowest number of Executive Orders. Of the past seven Presidents, Obama was third lowest, and fourth lowest of the past ten Presidents, a title which he retains all the way to the beginning of the previous century.

Amortized over the length of his Presidency, Obama wrote 34.6 Executive Orders per year, or approximately one every ten days. From the time of his inauguration, Trump has written 23 Executive orders, or one every four days. Yet you think Obama is the king of Executive orders. Trump is the dictator, and is on track to produce more Executive Orders than Roosevelt (pick one).
typical garison response, insults in the first paragraph, followed by some numbers that have nothing to do with the fact that i was referring the magnitude of the EOs not the quantity.
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Eight years, apparently, before Obama got around to it.
Okay, that's possible. I thought it was in relation to ShuGuy mentioning Trump's "first hundred days". It's hard to tell what InfantryStud's talking about, because many times, he doesn't know himself.
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So you admit that Obama wrote better Executive Orders than Trump. Good for you ; you're finally seeing the light.
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Well that is obama's fault, he was the one to start ruling unilaterally like a dictator with executive orders, had his legacy been more than a bunch of EOs it wouldn't be so easy to undo everything that couldn't get through Congress in the first place
Sometimes a simple Google search will prevent you from looking like an Obama hating partisan hack with no connection to reality.
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Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland
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If you were only half as smart as you think you are, you likely wouldn't be so bitter because your life wouldn't be in shambles.

You get kicked around by everyone else in life so you come here to make yourself feel better by constantly insulting people.

How sad and pathetic is that?

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Eight years, apparently, before Obama got around to it.
Okay, that's possible. I thought it was in relation to ShuGuy mentioning Trump's "first hundred days". It's hard to tell what InfantryStud's talking about, because many times, he doesn't know himself.
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Well that is obama's fault, he was the one to start ruling unilaterally like a dictator with executive orders, had his legacy been more than a bunch of EOs it wouldn't be so easy to undo everything that couldn't get through Congress in the first place
Sometimes a simple Google search will prevent you from looking like an Obama hating partisan hack with no connection to reality.
Number of executive orders by president
Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland
and perhaps if you actually read a post before commenting you wouldn't look like someone who lacks basic reading comprehension. I never said that obama wrote more EOs(although 18 at this point in his presidency isn't that much less than 23) I said what he did with them was the difference, he used them to push his own agenda without Congress.

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even the bleeding heart liberals at SNL saw obamas abuse of EOs
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