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Old 06-12-2017, 03:41 PM   #21
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Let's see if I've got this right. Huck's OP was about the craziness of Trump claiming that Obama tapped his phones. Obama did not tap the phones. And you think that Huck got it wrong. Better watch out there, your getting into dartlogic territory.
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it looks like more & more our POTUS really is crazier every fucking day.

not to mention the discord the disagreement caused in these forums.
maybe we should, I dunno, close MD?

The huge giant troll calls for the MD to close. What a joke you are.
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Let's see if I've got this right. Huck's OP was about the craziness of Trump claiming that Obama tapped his phones. Obama did not tap the phones. And you think that Huck got it wrong. Better watch out there, your getting into dartlogic territory.

You mean the logic that is actually correct, and sensible. Unlike the crazy rants you go on.
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Let's see if I've got this right. Huck's OP was about the craziness of Trump claiming that Obama tapped his phones. Obama did not tap the phones. And you think that Huck got it wrong. Better watch out there, your getting into dartlogic territory.
Quite right.
Mind you, Trump's campaign was being investigated by the authorities but they didn't stoop to tapping his phone.
It's a technicality, but it makes Trump wrong, and that's what counts.
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Well.... How did we find out about General Flynn's conversation with the Russians and how was Flynn's name "unmasked" if someone wasn't listening in on the conversation?

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Quite right.
Mind you, Trump's campaign was being investigated by the authorities but they didn't stoop to tapping his phone.
It's a technicality, but it makes Trump wrong, and that's what counts.
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it looks like more & more our POTUS really is crazier every fucking day.

not to mention the discord the disagreement caused in these forums.
maybe we should, I dunno, close MD?

The huge giant troll calls for the MD to close. What a joke you are.
every time you have ever posted it just showcases your stupidity
why dont you run out & lift a few 800 pound weights
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Mind you, Trump's campaign was being investigated by the authorities but they didn't stoop to tapping his phone.
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Well.... How did we find out about General Flynn's conversation with the Russians and how was Flynn's name "unmasked" if someone wasn't listening in on the conversation?

My recollection is that the Trumpeteers were picked up as collateral collection, the target was the Russians and the taps were on the Russians.

And whatever happened to the "unmasking" scandal? Another RWNJ faux scandal that turned out to be nothing.
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The huge giant troll calls for the MD to close. What a joke you are.
every time you have ever posted it just showcases your stupidity
why dont you run out & lift a few 800 pound weights

That's your opinion. But you don't see me randomly attacking other members for no reason. You the true idiot here. No one wants to play your idiot troll games, so you start attacking at random. Instead of saying something intelligent all you can do is insult. So truly anything you say is basically comic relif for me, so keep it coming, I need my daily laugh.

Oh by the way do you always cry,bitch and moan this much when your outwitted.
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You can't get any Obama appointees to show up to congress to be asked about it. It hasn't gone away. Not a fake scandal. You know very well - if you did what you say you did in the USAF - that US persons have rights and their names, if collected, should be masked. But, they weren't.

And, the only crime we know of for certain - is that their names were leaked to the press. That was a crime.

Come on, man. Don't be intellectually dishonest.

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Well.... How did we find out about General Flynn's conversation with the Russians and how was Flynn's name "unmasked" if someone wasn't listening in on the conversation?

My recollection is that the Trumpeteers were picked up as collateral collection, the target was the Russians and the taps were on the Russians.

And whatever happened to the "unmasking" scandal? Another RWNJ faux scandal that turned out to be nothing.
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You can't get any Obama appointees to show up to congress to be asked about it. It hasn't gone away. Not a fake scandal. You know very well - if you did what you say you did in the USAF - that US persons have rights and their names, if collected, should be masked. But, they weren't.
The unmasking has been looked at by at least one committee, there was nothing to it since it is SOP. The names were originally masked, the intel users went through the normal procedure to unmask them. Fake scandal.

What's this crap about "can't get any Obama appointees to show up to congress to be asked about it"? They have talked, and if it weren't such a fake scandal then Congress has the subpoena power to call them to testify again.

The (Republican) congress looked at it, found nothing amiss, and you can't let it go. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!!
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When did Loretta Lynch testify about unmasking? In fact, who exactly testified about the unmasking.

You're quite dismissive of this. In fact, I notice you completely skipped over the truly illegal part - leaking it to the press.

You do know that's a crime, right?

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The unmasking has been looked at by at least one committee, there was nothing to it since it is SOP. The names were originally masked, the intel users went through the normal procedure to unmask them. Fake scandal.

What's this crap about "can't get any Obama appointees to show up to congress to be asked about it"? They have talked, and if it weren't such a fake scandal then Congress has the subpoena power to call them to testify again.

The (Republican) congress looked at it, found nothing amiss, and you can't let it go. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!!
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When did Loretta Lynch testify about unmasking? In fact, who exactly testified about the unmasking.
Rogers and Coats testified. They are both Trump appointees. Why would Lynch testify if she wasn't subpoenaed? Apparently the committee was satisfied by the testimony of Rogers and Coats.

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You do know that's a crime, right?
Nice try, but it's your typical attempt at misdirection. The allegation was that Obama tapped Trump's phones. That was false. Now you engage in whataboutism to deflect.

Even then, I'm not so sure the leak was illegal. It depends on what was leaked. If all that was leaked was that there was unmasking being done then that probably would not be illegal since it's not classified. Unlike what Trumpeteers like to think, just because the information given to the press makes the administration look bad, it does not make it a leak or illegal.
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Susan Rice refused to testify...

But, yeah, I get it man. You're a partisan hack.

Leaking TS level COMINT is a crime. You know that. If you don't know that then I do, indeed, question your claimed service record in the USAF. Lets put it this way - if you had leaked COMINT do you think you'd get away with it? Nah. You'd go to jail just like "Reality Winner" is sitting in jail. People like Hillary and Susan Rice don't go to jail.

I can respect a healthy disagreement. A difference of opinion here and there. But, you are being intellectually dishonest. You know that's a crime. A real crime.

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You're quite dismissive of this. In fact, I notice you completely skipped over the truly illegal part - leaking it to the press.

You do know that's a crime, right?
Nice try, but it's your typical attempt at misdirection. The allegation was that Obama tapped Trump's phones. That was false. Now you engage in whataboutism to deflect.

Even then, I'm not so sure the leak was illegal. It depends on what was leaked. If all that was leaked was that there was unmasking being done then that probably would not be illegal since it's not classified. Unlike what Trumpeteers like to think, just because the information given to the press makes the administration look bad, it does not make it a leak or illegal.
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a torrent of fake news from Democrats and the media claiming Donald Trump is a traitor who colluded with Russia to steal the election;
wild accusations by Democrat officials and activists that Trump is a crook profiting from the presidency;
the media's blame-the-victim coverage of anti-Trump violence that falsely makes Trump supporters seem the dangerous ones;
24/7 vilification and ridicule of Trump in media outlets like CNN;
comedian Kathy Griffin posing with what seems Trump's severed and bloodied head;
a performance of Julia Caesar in New York featuring an actor looking like Trump being stabbed as a tyrant;
Madonna telling protesters she'd dreamed of bombing the White House;
the largely unchallenged hate-rhetoric of Black Lives Matter that has already lead to the slaughter of five white police at a Black Lives Matter rally;
the increasing violence of campus Leftists that has had conservatives and libertarians physically attacked and threatened...

And you claim that Trump is getting crazier?
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Susan Rice refused to testify...

But, yeah, I get it man. You're a partisan hack.
And yet they didn't issue a subpoena. So not even the congresscritters thought it would add anything to have her testify. You take one little factoid and try to build a big conspiracy case out of it. Methinks the partisan hack is you.

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Leaking TS level COMINT is a crime. You know that. If you don't know that then I do, indeed, question your claimed service record in the USAF. Lets put it this way - if you had leaked COMINT do you think you'd get away with it? Nah. You'd go to jail just like "Reality Winner" is sitting in jail. People like Hillary and Susan Rice don't go to jail.

I can respect a healthy disagreement. A difference of opinion here and there. But, you are being intellectually dishonest. You know that's a crime. A real crime.
COMINT was not leaked. What was "leaked", according to your earlier posts, is that names were unmasked. That's not COMINT, not classified, not even really a leak. You need to use the word leak to make it sound like something illegal. It's inconvenient for the administration but that does not make it illegal.

It's intellectually dishonest to try to make a crime out of something that's not, just to support your partisanship.
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So, you are doubling down that leaking TS/SCI material is not a crime? Well, I guess your "logic" makes sense. You defended the Hillary email situation.

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18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person (say, the press), or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

^ is the law. I'm not going to argue you about it. It is what it is. The person leaking the unmasked names is a criminal. That's the only crime that has 100% occurred. Everything thing else is innuendo and "well, we don't have evidence, but lets keep digging".

I'm a little surprised that you are so blindly partisan on the actual law. But, then again, people on the left are actually shooting people on the right these days so it shouldn't surprise me.


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And yet they didn't issue a subpoena. So not even the congresscritters thought it would add anything to have her testify. You take one little factoid and try to build a big conspiracy case out of it. Methinks the partisan hack is you.

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Leaking TS level COMINT is a crime. You know that. If you don't know that then I do, indeed, question your claimed service record in the USAF. Lets put it this way - if you had leaked COMINT do you think you'd get away with it? Nah. You'd go to jail just like "Reality Winner" is sitting in jail. People like Hillary and Susan Rice don't go to jail.

I can respect a healthy disagreement. A difference of opinion here and there. But, you are being intellectually dishonest. You know that's a crime. A real crime.
COMINT was not leaked. What was "leaked", according to your earlier posts, is that names were unmasked. That's not COMINT, not classified, not even really a leak. You need to use the word leak to make it sound like something illegal. It's inconvenient for the administration but that does not make it illegal.

It's intellectually dishonest to try to make a crime out of something that's not, just to support your partisanship.
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it looks like more & more our POTUS really is crazier every fucking day.

not to mention the discord the disagreement caused in these forums.
maybe we should, I dunno, close MD?


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So, you are doubling down that leaking TS/SCI material is not a crime? Well, I guess your "logic" makes sense. You defended the Hillary email situation.
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What you so conveniently ignore is that classified information was not leaked. The fact that names get unmasked is not classified. Your partisanship requires you to try to make something illegal out of everything that is done by Democrats, I get that, you're a hack.

You're getting as bad as daft with making up things I said. I specifically said COMINT was not leaked. Yet you claim I'm "doubling down" on it not being a crime. Get it through your head, leaking classified information is a crime but this was not classified information.
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