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Old 03-23-2019, 04:59 PM   #1
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Politics What the Intolerant Left has drive the U.S. to have to do

What the Intolerant Left has drive the U.S. to have to do!



The fact the U.S. had to do this to in order to force people to keep within the bounds of the Constitution really show the lefts hatred of the U.S. and what ti stands for!
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Article, for us that hate videos. Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.
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It would seem to me that it's not regulating speech but freeing it.
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Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.
It's not about what the student's study but about what they are allowed to say.
If they don't believe in climate change then they should have the right to stand up and say so, not be shouted down by people who are too scared to have a debate.
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Article, for us that hate videos. Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.

Thank you. Your statement clearly show why this action was necessary, and also clearly shows how sad the left has become. If you only way you can stand up to pier review is to silence those that appose you, what does that really say about your positions, goals, and ideas?
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Article, for us that hate videos. Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.

Thank you. Your statement clearly show why this action was necessary, and also clearly shows how sad the left has become. If you only way you can stand up to pier review is to silence those that appose you, what does that really say about your positions, goals, and ideas?

Thank You iron_warmonger. I didn't know what to say to that.
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Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.
Please explain why it is conservative nonsense to enjoy the things that we have that make the west the most open minded and prosperous countries? Countries that people from less tolerant societies are clamouring to get into.

You might also like to elucidate on the benefits of hard-left anarchism, where might rules and to the devil with the underdog. How would you build a needed bridge or freeway with hard-left anarchism? With slave labour? Just remember that with anarchism you have no government to collect taxes.
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When I was growing up it was always the right that was portrayed in movies & TV as the intolerant, the censors, the book burners, the sticks in the mud who wanted to stifle free expression. The shoe is firmly on the other foot now.
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lol i guess that was part of how democrats "switched" sides
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It would seem to me that it's not regulating speech but freeing it.
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If they don't believe in climate change then they should have the right to stand up and say so, not be shouted down by people who are too scared to have a debate.
So your proposal here is to silence the liberals, for the sake of the conservatives who can tolerate only the gentlest debate. Interesting.
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It would seem to me that it's not regulating speech but freeing it.
By tying the hands of the universities and colleges. They can no longer say anything themselves, they're just platforms where other people can speak.
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It's not about what the student's study but about what they are allowed to say.
If they don't believe in climate change then they should have the right to stand up and say so, not be shouted down by people who are too scared to have a debate.
So your proposal here is to silence the liberals, for the sake of the conservatives who can tolerate only the gentlest debate. Interesting.


By tying their hands? Hmm having to follow the first amendment Is now tying the hands of people. Did you seriously just say that.


Next your trying to add a whole bunch of things that are not there. No one said the liberals had to stop preaching about global warming, it is just now the opposition can say we don't believe in that. How is that silencing anyone. You seriously sound like a nut job here.
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Article, for us that hate videos. Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.


saying this would be like saying I'll beleive affirmative action is about protecting people when it gets some white people hired. White people are not considered to be the ones that have a problem getting a job based on race. So the fact that liberals have no problem expressing themseleves on campus why would that need to be brought up. Your simpily making excuses because you don't like the fact that conservatives can now also speak up. You are one of the people that caused this excutive order to be signed and you don't even realize it. Did you catch that you are part of the problem.
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Article, for us that hate videos. Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.

Thank you. Your statement clearly show why this action was necessary, and also clearly shows how sad the left has become. If you only way you can stand up to pier review is to silence those that appose you, what does that really say about your positions, goals, and ideas?
I'm sorry, you seem to have me confused with the people who just had to sign an executive order to silence the liberals who keep out-debating them.
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Thank you. Your statement clearly show why this action was necessary, and also clearly shows how sad the left has become. If you only way you can stand up to pier review is to silence those that appose you, what does that really say about your positions, goals, and ideas?
I'm sorry, you seem to have me confused with the people who just had to sign an executive order to silence the liberals who keep out-debating them.


Hmm you don't quite seem to understand the executive order. It says if they failed to comply with free speech standards outlined by the administration, their funding will get cut. So if the silence liberals their funding will still get cut. It doesn't give any special right to conservatives.

Some how you think that blocking some one else free speech is blocking their free speech. Do you not even see the lunacy of your logic here.
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Personally, I'll believe it's about "free speech" when it protects some student's right to study the benefits of hard-left anarchism, and not just conservative nonsense.
Please explain why it is conservative nonsense to enjoy the things that we have that make the west the most open minded and prosperous countries? Countries that people from less tolerant societies are clamouring to get into.
Are you saying "exercising your right to free expression" is a uniquely conservative value? Either way, I'm less concerned with the right to speech than with the actual speech.
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I said left-anarchism, not anarcho-capitalism. Also known as libertarian socialism, because fuck you Rothbard and Rand, it was a leftist idea first.

And yeah, my concern with anarchy in general is that there's a lot of stuff you need government for. Bridges and roads can still be built just fine, because the Darth Bob Road Crew doesn't need a government to operate, but a road network that anybody can use to drive across the continent requires some higher authority. Although the bigger problem is probably what a friend refers to as King Asshole; a big part of left-anarchism is that nobody's a slave, everybody's free to do as they will, but what happens if somebody decides they do want slaves after all? Who can swoop in and say "Stop infringing that person's rights?" I'd say government, but this is anarchy sooo....
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The left just wants to continue to shout down or ban any opposing forces. The kid from Turning Point expressing his conservative opinion? Punched in the face on camera. That's what the left wants - the ability to literally rain punches down on speech they don't like.

And, then they have the stones to claim the conservatives are the one that are Nazis.

What I described in the first paragraph sounds like something out of Nazi Germany in 1933-34.

And, now a preemptive fuck you to the inevitable reference to Godwin's Law.
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This entire treat has illustrated several major points that I have been seeing in recent U.S. politics.

The left has become unhinged. We have read what the Executive Order says, even the article posted by Darthbob says it about requiring that school must abide by the first Amendment and there own rules or risk losing federal grant money. But the left cannot see such, they can only see it as an attack on the God Ordained power of the Left/Liberals/Democrats/etc.

This, more then anything, illustrates by point that the Democratic party of 2019 is no different then the Democratic part of 1860! The methods have changed bu the goals have not. There is little difference between the White Southern Plantation owning democrat of the 19th century and the modern leadership of Democratic party today. It all about power. The power to control the narrative then and the power to control the narrative now.

The same is true for rack and file member of the Democratic party today. While there are no longer slaves in name, there are slaves of the mind today. The have had their brains to mind-washed they can only see what the party tells them to see. Their leaders have become cults of personality, consider infallible in any thing they say or do, and when they are not give power by the people of the United States, they consider the winner to usurped their Rightful Power.

Here we see one of the trying to say that what the executive order is about shutting down the left rights to speak, because why see any thing that is appose to their side of debate as an affront to there god granted authority. Like the Kings of old Europe. Darthbob is far from the first one I have met. A college friends ex wife, who lives in Fort Wayne IN, is so brain washed into the Al Gore Cult of the Environment, she claims there are only four tree left is all of the U.S. and when see look out the window of her home she actually see desolate waste land.

The sad part is these individuals represent nearly half the voters of this nation.
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It's not about what the student's study but about what they are allowed to say.
If they don't believe in climate change then they should have the right to stand up and say so, not be shouted down by people who are too scared to have a debate.
Shouldn't people who disagree with climate change deniers also have the right to free speech, or in your feeble mind does free speech only apply to conservatives?
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It's not about what the student's study but about what they are allowed to say.
If they don't believe in climate change then they should have the right to stand up and say so, not be shouted down by people who are too scared to have a debate.
Shouldn't people who disagree with climate change deniers also have the right to free speech, or in your feeble mind does free speech only apply to conservatives?

Yes they too have the right to free speech. But not at the expense of someone else’s free speech.
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Shouldn't people who disagree with climate change deniers also have the right to free speech, or in your feeble mind does free speech only apply to conservatives?

Yes they too have the right to free speech. But not at the expense of someone else’s free speech.
You probably don't realize it, but you're saying that conservatives (deniers in your example) have a right to free speech, and others cannot exercise their right to disagree through speech.
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