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Old 09-27-2018, 02:31 PM   #1
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Not a fan of Trump. No source provided. Just wondering?

Kavenaugh’s timeline

1982...something happened.

1983,1984,1985,1986,

1987,1988,1989,1990,

1991,1992,1993,1994,

1995,1996,1997,1998,

1999,2000,2001,2002...she said nothing.

July 25,2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit...she said nothing.

2004,2005...she said nothing.

May 11,2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation.

Kavanaugh confirmed by the United States Senate...she said nothing.

June1,2006: Sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy...she said nothing.

2007,2008,2009,2010, 2011...she said nothing.

2012...she "remembered" something happened in 1982 yet she said nothing.

2013,2014,2015..she said nothing.

2016,2017,2018: Liberal activist, Anti-Trump protester

2018: With Kavanaugh's confirmation looming she thinks she should say something.

She's had a degree in Clinical Psychology?

Oh,the irony.
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Old 09-27-2018, 03:54 PM   #2
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Before now, Kavanaugh was not potentially in a position to remove women's rights. Now he is.
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Not a fan of Trump. No source provided. Just wondering?

Kavenaugh’s timeline

1982...something happened.

1983,1984,1985,1986,

1987,1988,1989,1990,

1991,1992,1993,1994,

1995,1996,1997,1998,

1999,2000,2001,2002...she said nothing.

July 25,2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit...she said nothing.

2004,2005...she said nothing.

May 11,2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation.

Kavanaugh confirmed by the United States Senate...she said nothing.

June1,2006: Sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy...she said nothing.

2007,2008,2009,2010, 2011...she said nothing.

2012...she "remembered" something happened in 1982 yet she said nothing.

2013,2014,2015..she said nothing.

2016,2017,2018: Liberal activist, Anti-Trump protester

2018: With Kavanaugh's confirmation looming she thinks she should say something.

She's had a degree in Clinical Psychology?

Oh,the irony.
Can you imagine what would have happened if she'd spoken up about this even 10 years ago, never mind when it happened? She would have been roundly condemned, for trying to derail his career, because everybody knows that women are liars/she secretly wanted it/whatever other misogynistic excuse. It's only been in the past couple years that #MeToo and #TimesUp have pushed the needle back towards "No, really, sexual assault is unacceptable", and even so, you still have people saying that the events described are totally normal, and that boys will be attempted rapists. And let me just say, as a man that shit is more misandrist than whatever radical feminism you want to dig up. I also dearly want to see a Venn diagram between people who say "boys will be rapists" and people who say "Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown had it coming", but that's a separate matter.

TLDR: Why didn't she come forward earlier? Because as much as people are casting doubt on her story now, it would have been immensely worse 10-20-30 years ago.
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this new woman said she was gang raped in approximately 1984, approximately? I would think if a woman was gang raped she would know the year, as well as the month and day of the most horrible moment of her life. If it was approximate that probably means she willingly had sex with a bunch of guys and now decided it was rape to help the democrats squash everything Trump does.

it is sickening
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this new woman said she was gang raped in approximately 1984, approximately? I would think if a woman was gang raped she would know the year, as well as the month and day of the most horrible moment of her life. If it was approximate that probably means she willingly had sex with a bunch of guys and now decided it was rape to help the democrats squash everything Trump does.

it is sickening

Where does it say that she claimed to have been gang-raped?
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Not a fan of Trump. No source provided. Just wondering?

Kavenaugh’s timeline

1982...something happened.

1983,1984,1985,1986,

1987,1988,1989,1990,

1991,1992,1993,1994,

1995,1996,1997,1998,

1999,2000,2001,2002...she said nothing.

July 25,2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit...she said nothing.

2004,2005...she said nothing.

May 11,2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation.

Kavanaugh confirmed by the United States Senate...she said nothing.

June1,2006: Sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy...she said nothing.

2007,2008,2009,2010, 2011...she said nothing.

2012...she "remembered" something happened in 1982 yet she said nothing.

2013,2014,2015..she said nothing.

2016,2017,2018: Liberal activist, Anti-Trump protester

2018: With Kavanaugh's confirmation looming she thinks she should say something.

She's had a degree in Clinical Psychology?

Oh,the irony.

Have you studied the impact of these sexual assaults on women?

What's said is that with a wealth of materials available, you merely mouth the talking points of stupid people
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this new woman said she was gang raped in approximately 1984, approximately? I would think if a woman was gang raped she would know the year, as well as the month and day of the most horrible moment of her life. If it was approximate that probably means she willingly had sex with a bunch of guys and now decided it was rape to help the democrats squash everything Trump does.

it is sickening

Where does it say that she claimed to have been gang-raped?
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this new woman said she was gang raped in approximately 1984, approximately? I would think if a woman was gang raped she would know the year, as well as the month and day of the most horrible moment of her life.

When I was a kid, I had "Spock ear". Specifically, my right ear came to a point. It's a family trait; my father had it, and my great niece has it, too.

Today, I don't have that point. It was burned off on my great aunt's wood-burning stove. Or so I'm told. I don't remember the incident. All I know is that one year kids were calling me "elf biy" and "Mr. Spock", and the next year they weren't.

I can tell you that rape is a lot more traumatic than falling against a hot stove. If I can't remember what happened to me at all, it is no surprise that a woman can't remember all of the details of being raped.
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this new woman said she was gang raped in approximately 1984, approximately? I would think if a woman was gang raped she would know the year, as well as the month and day of the most horrible moment of her life.

When I was a kid, I had "Spock ear". Specifically, my right ear came to a point. It's a family trait; my father had it, and my great niece has it, too.

Today, I don't have that point. It was burned off on my great aunt's wood-burning stove. Or so I'm told. I don't remember the incident. All I know is that one year kids were calling me "elf biy" and "Mr. Spock", and the next year they weren't.

I can tell you that rape is a lot more traumatic than falling against a hot stove. If I can't remember what happened to me at all, it is no surprise that a woman can't remember all of the details of being raped.
The difference is, did you think about how the stove violated you every day after that? Do you think about it every time you see a stove? You were involved in an accident(and its seems like you were younger as well), if she was gang raped, she was deliberately made to do something she didn't want to do, that is a lot more impactful than a traumatic accident as a child, remember if it was 1982 she was closer to 18.
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this new woman said she was gang raped in approximately 1984, approximately? I would think if a woman was gang raped she would know the year, as well as the month and day of the most horrible moment of her life.

When I was a kid, I had "Spock ear". Specifically, my right ear came to a point. It's a family trait; my father had it, and my great niece has it, too.

Today, I don't have that point. It was burned off on my great aunt's wood-burning stove. Or so I'm told. I don't remember the incident. All I know is that one year kids were calling me "elf biy" and "Mr. Spock", and the next year they weren't.

I can tell you that rape is a lot more traumatic than falling against a hot stove. If I can't remember what happened to me at all, it is no surprise that a woman can't remember all of the details of being raped.


Your trying to compare a simple childhood injury to an attack on a teenager. This explains a lot about you.
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When I was a kid, I had "Spock ear". Specifically, my right ear came to a point. It's a family trait; my father had it, and my great niece has it, too.

Today, I don't have that point. It was burned off on my great aunt's wood-burning stove. Or so I'm told. I don't remember the incident. All I know is that one year kids were calling me "elf biy" and "Mr. Spock", and the next year they weren't.

I can tell you that rape is a lot more traumatic than falling against a hot stove. If I can't remember what happened to me at all, it is no surprise that a woman can't remember all of the details of being raped.
The difference is, did you think about how the stove violated you every day after that? Do you think about it every time you see a stove? You were involved in an accident(and its seems like you were younger as well), if she was gang raped, she was deliberately made to do something she didn't want to do, that is a lot more impactful than a traumatic accident as a child, remember if it was 1982 she was closer to 18.
If garison's mutilation doesn't do it for you, I fell out of a tree when I was younger. Suffered major concussion, I think I almost died, and it left me with a long-standing fear of climbing trees again. I'm pretty sure this traumatic, almost-life-ending event happened one summer in the 90s. People don't always react to trauma the way you think they should.
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I am not commenting on the truth or otherwise of her claims. I just want to point out a few little facts.

* Swetnick goes to "well over 10" of these parties where she sees gang rapes, women assaulted and drinks spiked? And keeps going until she is allegedly drugged and raped herself?
* Swetnick sees rapes and is raped and never contacts the police?
* Swetnick goes to these parties with students from a private school when she used to study at a public school 13km away.
* Swetnick graduated from high school in 1980, Kavanaugh in 1983. So in 1982 she's a university student in her second or third year still going to parties thrown by high school students?
* Swetnick never speaks up until the very final days of Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, and then speaks only through a statement given to the lawyer for porn star Stormy Daniels?
* All these gang-rapes of women occur and there's not a single report of women or their parents complaining to police? Instead, there's 60 women and men who were students with Kavanaugh who deny such stuff occurred at their parties.
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Before now, Kavanaugh was not potentially in a position to remove women's rights. Now he is.
A touch of paranoia creeping in here?
What about all the other rights that might be removed or foisted onto you, like them or not, all in the name of fairness.
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The difference is, did you think about how the stove violated you every day after that? Do you think about it every time you see a stove? You were involved in an accident(and its seems like you were younger as well), if she was gang raped, she was deliberately made to do something she didn't want to do, that is a lot more impactful than a traumatic accident as a child, remember if it was 1982 she was closer to 18.
If garison's mutilation doesn't do it for you, I fell out of a tree when I was younger. Suffered major concussion, I think I almost died, and it left me with a long-standing fear of climbing trees again. I'm pretty sure this traumatic, almost-life-ending event happened one summer in the 90s. People don't always react to trauma the way you think they should.


And again your comparing a childhood injury. It is actually sad that you think this is anywhere near a rape. It truly shows how far off your judgment in these situations really is.
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I am not commenting on the truth or otherwise of her claims. I just want to point out a few little facts.

* Swetnick goes to "well over 10" of these parties where she sees gang rapes, women assaulted and drinks spiked? And keeps going until she is allegedly drugged and raped herself?
* Swetnick sees rapes and is raped and never contacts the police?
* Swetnick goes to these parties with students from a private school when she used to study at a public school 13km away.
* Swetnick graduated from high school in 1980, Kavanaugh in 1983. So in 1982 she's a university student in her second or third year still going to parties thrown by high school students?
* Swetnick never speaks up until the very final days of Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, and then speaks only through a statement given to the lawyer for porn star Stormy Daniels?
* All these gang-rapes of women occur and there's not a single report of women or their parents complaining to police? Instead, there's 60 women and men who were students with Kavanaugh who deny such stuff occurred at their parties.


Ya it really makes it questionable that she knew these were rumored gang rape parties, but yet continued to go. Either direction you go from here on out makes her a shady witness. Because her continuing to go shows her judgment is not in tact making anything she says questionable. Or she made up the rumor otherwise why would she continue to go.
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If garison's mutilation doesn't do it for you, I fell out of a tree when I was younger. Suffered major concussion, I think I almost died, and it left me with a long-standing fear of climbing trees again. I'm pretty sure this traumatic, almost-life-ending event happened one summer in the 90s. People don't always react to trauma the way you think they should.
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Curse that Google for... accurately reporting the truth and listing other people's reporting? I think the only one of those articles you can really complain about is the WaPo article at the bottom, that calls him a radical conservative. Otherwise, your real objection seems to be just that it's not right-slanted enough for you.
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Wow! A bunch of men discussing sexual assault of women having practically no clue as how these things happen or why or how victims deal with their assault.

Idiots! Maybe you'd have a better appreciation of the whole thing if a woman friend or relative of yours gets raped.
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Wow! A bunch of men discussing sexual assault of women having practically no clue as how these things happen or why or how victims deal with their assault.

Idiots! Maybe you'd have a better appreciation of the whole thing if a woman friend or relative of yours gets raped.
When a woman says it was happening all the time and everyone knew about it and sixty people say it never happened, the preponderance of evidence is on the side of the sixty.
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I can understand how a woman would not want to report what happened. I can't understand that when multiple women were reputedly assaulted, not one of them reported the offence. Statistics show that only a small fraction of rapes get reported, but some DO get reported. If it was happening with the consistency that this latest victim claimed then there would be reports. Instead we get blanket denials, not just for the latest allegation, but for all of them. Anyone put forth as a putative witness is saying no, it didn't happen to his/her knowledge.

The screams that we must believe that these events took place because a woman says they did is hysterical witch hunting, looking for a victim to lynch, ignoring facts in their moral campaign to support women, no matter what.

It has been pointed out to the Me Too brigade that women are making false allegations and their response was that it didn't matter. It was just men being accused so that was OK. Guilt is not a determining factor when punishment is being handed out.
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