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Old 06-24-2018, 12:37 PM   #1
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White House press secretary says asked to leave restaurant for working for Trump



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Businesses don't have to serve people they find offensive.
That's a poor phrasing, because now somebody's going to raise the obvious comparison to the various gay bakery cases. I'll just point out that, to paraphrase the greatest Christian intellectual of the 20th century, Mrs Sanders was judged not on the color of her skin, but the content of her character.
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But you are correct about the comparison to the Cake situation. Not the question is what if the situation was reversed? Can a restaurant refuse service to a Left Slanted News Journalist?

Just saying a Business has the right to refuse service, means a business had the right to refuse service to ANYONE, not just those you don't like! Is that a path you really want to go down?

What about in hiring? Can a company refuse to hire someone for any reason? If they can refuse service, shouldn't they also have that rights in regards to employment?

And if this had been a member of the Obama administration would you feel the same way?
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Law was one of the things that held stupid actions like acting on your prejudices in check.
Now, with the threat of more litigation as a follow-up to the Masterpiece Bakeshop Case, we will have more craziness on all sides all claiming either religious exception or First Amendment rights.
Regardless of the reasoning, I think more political hate is in store before adults finally step in and stop these children from doing more of the same.

Well, Sanders has been the face of the Trump Administration and she, fairly or unfairly, bears the brunt of the counter-attacks.
A part of me thinks she deserves it, but a part of me feels for her and the pain she in undoubtedly suffering because of her job.
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Businesses don't have to serve people they find offensive.
That's a poor phrasing, because now somebody's going to raise the obvious comparison to the various gay bakery cases. I'll just point out that, to paraphrase the greatest Christian intellectual of the 20th century, Mrs Sanders was judged not on the color of her skin, but the content of her character.
The difference being that the baker first needs to lose everything because of this customer only to be justified after said customer ruined their lives
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That's a poor phrasing, because now somebody's going to raise the obvious comparison to the various gay bakery cases. I'll just point out that, to paraphrase the greatest Christian intellectual of the 20th century, Mrs Sanders was judged not on the color of her skin, but the content of her character.
The difference being that the baker first needs to lose everything because of this customer only to be justified after said customer ruined their lives

I don't think you understood the law behind the ruling.
The ruling didn't say he was right, but only that the Colorado Civil rights Commission showed hostility to religious views of the baker.

It wasn't a win in that sense (in that what he did was legal) and the baker wasn't "justified" as you say in the way he acted.

And I couldn't see where you got the notion that the baker "lo[st] everything" from the article you cited.
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The difference being that the baker first needs to lose everything because of this customer only to be justified after said customer ruined their lives

I don't think you understood the law behind the ruling.
The ruling didn't say he was right, but only that the Colorado Civil rights Commission showed hostility to religious views of the baker.

It wasn't a win in that sense (in that what he did was legal) and the baker wasn't "justified" as you say in the way he acted.

And I couldn't see where you got the notion that the baker "lo[st] everything" from the article you cited.

The fact he lost everything was from memory of the case and his legal fees.
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“The Colorado Civil Rights Commission’s consideration of this case was inconsistent with the State’s obligation of religious neutrality,” Justice Anthony Kennedy ruled for the Supreme Court majority.
if they overturned the verdict which was based on him being wrong it means he was right(as in it was within his rights to refuse)
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Sarah Sanders tweet about being kicked out of restaurant violates law, former White House ethics chief says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sarah-san...115036629.html


I wonder what the "law and order" and "rule of law" crowd will say about this?
Oh, right, they'll probably dig deep into their basket of "whataboutism".

I'm sure an idiot or ethically challenged person will justify the ethical misstep shortly.
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Businesses don't have to serve people they find offensive.
"we reserve the right to refuse service" is a policy as old I am.
any business owner is entitled to designate or otherwise determine
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as far back as I can remember
tough shit for those who dont like it
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Businesses don't have to serve people they find offensive.
"we reserve the right to refuse service" is a policy as old I am.
any business owner is entitled to designate or otherwise determine
his target group of customers.

as far back as I can remember
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Hahaha there have been signs up for as long as I can remember that say trespassers will be shot. Just because you have the sign up still doesn't make it legal.
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Sarah Sanders tweet about being kicked out of restaurant violates law, former White House ethics chief says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sarah-san...115036629.html


I wonder what the "law and order" and "rule of law" crowd will say about this?
Oh, right, they'll probably dig deep into their basket of "whataboutism".

I'm sure an idiot or ethically challenged person will justify the ethical misstep shortly.


Talk about whatbousim a restaurant breaks the law kicking her out. But but but she broke a law. Dear lord you don't even realize you do the shit your complaining about.
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Sarah Sanders tweet about being kicked out of restaurant violates law, former White House ethics chief says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sarah-san...115036629.html


I wonder what the "law and order" and "rule of law" crowd will say about this?
Oh, right, they'll probably dig deep into their basket of "whataboutism".

I'm sure an idiot or ethically challenged person will justify the ethical misstep shortly.


Talk about whatbousim a restaurant breaks the law kicking her out. But but but she broke a law. Dear lord you don't even realize you do the shit your complaining about.
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Talk about whatbousim a restaurant breaks the law kicking her out. But but but she broke a law. Dear lord you don't even realize you do the shit your complaining about.
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Reread what I said huck. I didn't defend her actions. I pointed out numbers hypocrisy. You can attempt to try to make your own scenario all you want, but simply it is not true. Your not doing so hot these days are you. Cant seem to get one thing right.
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But you are correct about the comparison to the Cake situation. Not the question is what if the situation was reversed? Can a restaurant refuse service to a Left Slanted News Journalist?

Just saying a Business has the right to refuse service, means a business had the right to refuse service to ANYONE, not just those you don't like! Is that a path you really want to go down?

What about in hiring? Can a company refuse to hire someone for any reason? If they can refuse service, shouldn't they also have that rights in regards to employment?

And if this had been a member of the Obama administration would you feel the same way?
Obviously I would not feel the same way, but it'd still be legal for that restaurant to turn away Nega-Sarah Sanders, and "political views" wouldn't become a protected class just because I agreed with the victim.
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That's a poor phrasing, because now somebody's going to raise the obvious comparison to the various gay bakery cases. I'll just point out that, to paraphrase the greatest Christian intellectual of the 20th century, Mrs Sanders was judged not on the color of her skin, but the content of her character.
What you have said there comes pretty close to being defamatory.
Someone who works for Trump must be of poor character?
What a blanket condemnation of the millions of people who voted for Trump and the millions who still support him.
Your hatred for these people is getting beyond bounds. The next knock on your door will be the Secret Service wanting a word with you.
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That's a poor phrasing, because now somebody's going to raise the obvious comparison to the various gay bakery cases. I'll just point out that, to paraphrase the greatest Christian intellectual of the 20th century, Mrs Sanders was judged not on the color of her skin, but the content of her character.
What you have said there comes pretty close to being defamatory.
Someone who works for Trump must be of poor character?
What a blanket condemnation of the millions of people who voted for Trump and the millions who still support him.
Your hatred for these people is getting beyond bounds. The next knock on your door will be the Secret Service wanting a word with you.
Somebody bring out a fainting couch for ASHSON, I do believe he's going into hysterics.
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But you are correct about the comparison to the Cake situation. Not the question is what if the situation was reversed? Can a restaurant refuse service to a Left Slanted News Journalist?

Just saying a Business has the right to refuse service, means a business had the right to refuse service to ANYONE, not just those you don't like! Is that a path you really want to go down?

What about in hiring? Can a company refuse to hire someone for any reason? If they can refuse service, shouldn't they also have that rights in regards to employment?

And if this had been a member of the Obama administration would you feel the same way?
Obviously I would not feel the same way, but it'd still be legal for that restaurant to turn away Nega-Sarah Sanders, and "political views" wouldn't become a protected class just because I agreed with the victim.

Political views isn't the problem. You have to reasonable excuse for refusing service to them. Because I don't like them or I don't like who they work for is not a reasonable excuse. Otherwise the baker could have simpily said I don't like you I'm not serving you. And not had one bit of legal problems. So unless the resteruant has a policy of not serving republican, and or trump staff they broke the law. These are stipulations put in to the law so you can't turn away evey black man that comes into your business and simpily say I didn't like him it had nothing to do with him being black.
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What you have said there comes pretty close to being defamatory.
Someone who works for Trump must be of poor character?
What a blanket condemnation of the millions of people who voted for Trump and the millions who still support him.
Your hatred for these people is getting beyond bounds. The next knock on your door will be the Secret Service wanting a word with you.
Somebody bring out a fainting couch for ASHSON, I do believe he's going into hysterics.


What a piss poor response for when you get called out for your hatred of a group of people. Your just as bad as the racist you pretend to condemn.
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What you have said there comes pretty close to being defamatory.
Someone who works for Trump must be of poor character?

What a blanket condemnation of the millions of people who voted for Trump
and the millions who still support him.

Your hatred for these people is getting beyond bounds.
The next knock on your door will be the Secret Service wanting a word with you.
nope! nopeanopeanope

thats just not going to happen
not only does your claim of defamation not make it so, you also arent aware of
or in control of Secret Service policies
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Somebody bring out a fainting couch for ASHSON, I
do believe he's going into hysterics.
that may well be, you have criticized his hero and his wild
uninformed exaggerations have kicked into full swing

he takes on like that when he runs out of distractions or defenses of his idol
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