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Old 03-26-2018, 07:44 AM   #1
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Economy Republican and their Love of Deficits

After Years Of Deficit Doomsaying, Republicans Go On Massive Spending Spree

https://www.yahoo.com/news/years-def...170416864.html


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After Years Of Deficit Doomsaying, Republicans Go On Massive Spending Spree

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Why not? It's not their money so it doesn't matter.

Behold the defense of Republican hypocrisy - Acceptance!


So I guess when Democrats do it you're going to feel the same way, right?


Probably not because the hypocrisy gushes right down to the Republican base, right?


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Politicians love to spend.
Why not? It's not their money so it doesn't matter.

Behold the defense of Republican hypocrisy - Acceptance!


So I guess when Democrats do it you're going to feel the same way, right?


Probably not because the hypocrisy gushes right down to the Republican base, right?


LOL!!!!


First off I love how your story you posted is such bullshit that not a single respond for almost a day. Then the only comment was one of mockery of politicians, but yet you still tried to twist that one comment back into the scenario you want so bad.

So lets get real here. Who is really at fault. Did the dems blow their spending out of the water in order to get trump and other republicans to cave on military spending and the wall. Yes they did. Did the republicans give to prevent a shut down and get their spending yes they did. You love to point the finger, but your pointing it in the wrong direction. Simply because this passed doesn't mean one bit that all the spending was the republicans. But hey we have already figured out you will believe anything that gives you a reason to keep up your hate. Never mind facts as long as you get to keep hating.
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Behold the defense of Republican hypocrisy - Acceptance!


So I guess when Democrats do it you're going to feel the same way, right?


Probably not because the hypocrisy gushes right down to the Republican base, right?


LOL!!!!


First off I love how your story you posted is such bullshit that not a single respond for almost a day. Then the only comment was one of mockery of politicians, but yet you still tried to twist that one comment back into the scenario you want so bad.

So lets get real here. Who is really at fault. Did the dems blow their spending out of the water in order to get trump and other republicans to cave on military spending and the wall. Yes they did. Did the republicans give to prevent a shut down and get their spending yes they did. You love to point the finger, but your pointing it in the wrong direction. Simply because this passed doesn't mean one bit that all the spending was the republicans. But hey we have already figured out you will believe anything that gives you a reason to keep up your hate. Never mind facts as long as you get to keep hating.

I am waiting for what kind of lie you are going to post next.

Funny, the Republicans control Congress, the White House, and the SCt., not to mention most of the Governorships and state legislatures and they still somehow can't govern or deliver their promises!!!!

Hahahahahahahahaha!

I guess voters like you deserve those imbeciles as your leaders!

Hahahahahaha!
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First off I love how your story you posted is such bullshit that not a single respond for almost a day. Then the only comment was one of mockery of politicians, but yet you still tried to twist that one comment back into the scenario you want so bad.

So lets get real here. Who is really at fault. Did the dems blow their spending out of the water in order to get trump and other republicans to cave on military spending and the wall. Yes they did. Did the republicans give to prevent a shut down and get their spending yes they did. You love to point the finger, but your pointing it in the wrong direction. Simply because this passed doesn't mean one bit that all the spending was the republicans. But hey we have already figured out you will believe anything that gives you a reason to keep up your hate. Never mind facts as long as you get to keep hating.

I am waiting for what kind of lie you are going to post next.

Funny, the Republicans control Congress, the White House, and the SCt., not to mention most of the Governorships and state legislatures and they still somehow can't govern or deliver their promises!!!!

Hahahahahahahahaha!

I guess voters like you deserve those imbeciles as your leaders!

Hahahahahaha!


What you act like its a big secrete that the republican party is so internally divided that it needs the democrats to get shit passed.

As for we get what we vote for you are correct. We currently have lawmakers that don't simply vote yes to go with the party. The republicans are doing what they are supposed to voting the way the people want we
whether it goes against the party or not.


Boy your not doing to good there sparky.
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Behold the defense of Republican hypocrisy - Acceptance!


So I guess when Democrats do it you're going to feel the same way, right?


Probably not because the hypocrisy gushes right down to the Republican base, right?
How is acknowledging the fact that politicians love to spend other people's money acceptance of them doing it?
Would you like me to deliver a blistering tirade about how they are mortgaging our children's future?
I could do that but it would be a waste of my time because it wouldn't accomplish anything.

Might I also note that I'm not a Republican or a Democrat.
I'm what is termed a swinging voter, one who will vote for whichever party that I think will do the best for my country. This may vary from year to year, depending on the platforms put forth.

Right now, where Australia is concerned, I would tend to vote for whoever I think can do something about runaway government spending.

Governments should spend within their means. Not to do so is a betrayal of their duty to their citizens, and this applies to both parties.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/years-def...170416864.html


Just like the Republicans/Conservatives/so-called Independents here

Be sure to let us know when Trump adds more to the National Debt then Obama did.
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I am waiting for what kind of lie you are going to post next.

Funny, the Republicans control Congress, the White House, and the SCt., not to mention most of the Governorships and state legislatures and they still somehow can't govern or deliver their promises!!!!

Hahahahahahahahaha!

I guess voters like you deserve those imbeciles as your leaders!

Hahahahahaha!


What you act like its a big secrete that the republican party is so internally divided that it needs the democrats to get shit passed.

As for we get what we vote for you are correct. We currently have lawmakers that don't simply vote yes to go with the party. The republicans are doing what they are supposed to voting the way the people want we
whether it goes against the party or not.


Boy your not doing to good there sparky.

LOL!!!!
Is that the defense of Republican Deficit?
I recall how Obama had to raise the deficit with a Republican Congress and you weren't so understanding.
More hypocrisy!

YOU ain't looking too good there Spot!
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After Years Of Deficit Doomsaying, Republicans Go On Massive Spending Spree

https://www.yahoo.com/news/years-def...170416864.html


Just like the Republicans/Conservatives/so-called Independents here

Be sure to let us know when Trump adds more to the National Debt then Obama did.

Well, we'll know soon enough when Trump ushers in a new recession
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After Years Of Deficit Doomsaying, Republicans Go On Massive Spending Spree

https://www.yahoo.com/news/years-def...170416864.html


Just like the Republicans/Conservatives/so-called Independents here

Be sure to let us know when Trump adds more to the National Debt then Obama did.
Considering he's already added $1 trillion to the debt, he's definitely on track to add more than Obama did over the course of one term.
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What you act like its a big secrete that the republican party is so internally divided that it needs the democrats to get shit passed.

As for we get what we vote for you are correct. We currently have lawmakers that don't simply vote yes to go with the party. The republicans are doing what they are supposed to voting the way the people want we
whether it goes against the party or not.


Boy your not doing to good there sparky.

LOL!!!!
Is that the defense of Republican Deficit?
I recall how Obama had to raise the deficit with a Republican Congress and you weren't so understanding.
More hypocrisy!

YOU ain't looking too good there Spot!


Look at you once again trying change what was said into your own little story so it will work for you. I didn't defend the spending. I pointed out once again what was wrong with your story. I also pointed out the issues that republicans are having passing things.

Then out of left field you bring up Obama. What at all logical since does this make. First off we were not talking about Obama were we. We were talking about current matters. Then if we can actually place Obama into this, you bring up Obama raising the deficit and try to trlate that. The things that Obama raised the deficit for and the things that trump raised it for are completely different, so there is absolutely no relation to each other. Oh look you were mad over the aca so you should be mad over the military budget. That is how horrible your logic is. What a joke. And you say I got the problem.
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Be sure to let us know when Trump adds more to the National Debt then Obama did.
Considering he's already added $1 trillion to the debt, he's definitely on track to add more than Obama did over the course of one term.

To start with your reference had the title of "U.S. National Debt Adds $1 Trillion in 6 Months, Partially Due to Trump Legislation", which is many respect harkens back to you use of "but it was Bush's policies that caused Obama additional to the national debt" defense.

But lets look at some numbers: (from https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current )

U.S. total dept on the last day of an Obama Budget was: 20,244,900,016,053.51

Today (March 29th) the U.S. total debt is:
21,085,008,958,072.43

So yes we are talking more the 800 billion added to the debt during this time frams.

But let also look at the first day of an Obama budget:
11,920,519,164,319.42

So over his eight years Obama added about 8.3 Trillion to the debt, the same president you have said cut the deficit, added more then a Trillion dollar a year to the debt. The same president that saw the U.S. credit rating lowered TWICE during his time if office. The President who oversaw the end of the U.s. being the works largest manufacturer. The President who over saw the end of the U.S. manned Space Program. Etc.

I am not defending Trump, I am pointing out that you have not chosen to care about these things, not because they are different, but because the letter behind the name of the person responsible has changed!

We did not have a good choice in the last election, neither of the two major candidates had the ability to truly lead this nation, and I don't see anyone better coming in 2020.
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Considering he's already added $1 trillion to the debt, he's definitely on track to add more than Obama did over the course of one term.

To start with your reference had the title of "U.S. National Debt Adds $1 Trillion in 6 Months, [b]Partially[b] Due to Trump Legislation", which is many respect harkens back to you use of "but it was Bush's policies that caused Obama additional to the national debt" defense.
I'm not sure you can claim that Trump is only partially responsible for the $1 trillion debt increase that took place under his budget while claiming that Obama is entirely responsible for the debt under his budgets. And yeah, Obama did trim the deficit, hitting a low of $438 billion in FY 2015.
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To start with your reference had the title of "U.S. National Debt Adds $1 Trillion in 6 Months, Partially Due to Trump Legislation", which is many respect harkens back to you use of "but it was Bush's policies that caused Obama additional to the national debt" defense.
I'm not sure you can claim that Trump is only partially responsible for the $1 trillion debt increase that took place under his budget while claiming that Obama is entirely responsible for the debt under his budgets. And yeah, Obama did trim the deficit, hitting a low of $438 billion in FY 2015.

I was not saying I agree with that statement, I was saying that I find t similar to how you tried to say that Obama Deficits were the result of thing Bush did.

I do believe that the deficits of Obama's Budgets are Obama fault, and the same holds true for Trump's budgets, and his responsibility. What I have issue with you how you defend Obama for years saying that he was not responsible, but now say Trump is. Like I said you don't judge people based on there actions, only by the letter after there name.
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I'm not sure you can claim that Trump is only partially responsible for the $1 trillion debt increase that took place under his budget while claiming that Obama is entirely responsible for the debt under his budgets. And yeah, Obama did trim the deficit, hitting a low of $438 billion in FY 2015.

I was not saying I agree with that statement, I was saying that I find t similar to how you tried to say that Obama Deficits were the result of thing Bush did.

I do believe that the deficits of Obama's Budgets are Obama fault, and the same holds true for Trump's budgets, and his responsibility. What I have issue with you how you defend Obama for years saying that he was not responsible, but now say Trump is. Like I said you don't judge people based on there actions, only by the letter after there name.
On the other hand, can you really excuse Trump's budget like that? I don't mean morally, I mean what can you reasonably point to that would diminish Trump's responsibility here, the way "Obama was just continuing Bush's response to the recession" diminished Obama's responsibility for his deficits?
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I was not saying I agree with that statement, I was saying that I find t similar to how you tried to say that Obama Deficits were the result of thing Bush did.

I do believe that the deficits of Obama's Budgets are Obama fault, and the same holds true for Trump's budgets, and his responsibility. What I have issue with you how you defend Obama for years saying that he was not responsible, but now say Trump is. Like I said you don't judge people based on there actions, only by the letter after there name.
On the other hand, can you really excuse Trump's budget like that? I don't mean morally, I mean what can you reasonably point to that would diminish Trump's responsibility here, the way "Obama was just continuing Bush's response to the recession" diminished Obama's responsibility for his deficits?

Can you read? What part of: "I do believe that the deficits of Obama's Budgets are Obama fault, and the same holds true for Trump's budgets, and his responsibility." did you not understand?
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On the other hand, can you really excuse Trump's budget like that? I don't mean morally, I mean what can you reasonably point to that would diminish Trump's responsibility here, the way "Obama was just continuing Bush's response to the recession" diminished Obama's responsibility for his deficits?

Can you read? What part of: "I do believe that the deficits of Obama's Budgets are Obama fault, and the same holds true for Trump's budgets, and his responsibility." did you not understand?
Then why the fuck did you bother making that post earlier except to sneer at Obama-Oh. Never mind, I understand now.
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Can you read? What part of: "I do believe that the deficits of Obama's Budgets are Obama fault, and the same holds true for Trump's budgets, and his responsibility." did you not understand?
Then why the fuck did you bother making that post earlier except to sneer at Obama-Oh. Never mind, I understand now.


The post earlier and many of the other post were to point out your hypocrisy. You had no problem blaming bush for Obama 's budget for 8 years. But now comes along trump and everything he does is his fault. But if we go with logical thinking of the dems from just a few years ago the budget would be Obama's fault as you have shown for the past eight years it was bushes fault. So logically the past thinking of the previous admin being at fault should carry over. Since it did not carry over it shows everything said before was bullshit or everything you say now is bullshit. You don't get it both ways so as of now your wrong on one front or the other. Now the real question is are you going to admit to currently being wrong or are you going to be wrong for the past 8 years.
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