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Old 03-15-2017, 02:57 AM   #1
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Sweden says nothing is happening in Sweden.

Trump sees some made-up story based on decades-old footage and makes up his own story about Muslim attacks in Sweden. And every ignorant Trumpeteer falls in line behind him.
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Sweden says nothing is happening in Sweden.

Trump sees some made-up story based on decades-old footage and makes up his own story about Muslim attacks in Sweden. And every ignorant Trumpeteer falls in line behind him.


Decades old footage that is 3 months old and less. Once again you are so full of shit Garison. A biter old man who won't face any facts that doesn't fit his narrative. The truth has nothing to do with Trump. The left says nothing is happening, and Trump implies it is pure anarchy. BOTH are wrong. Why can't you admit the left media is just as manipulative as the right media?

You hate Trump so much you accept everything negative. You are just as bad as the Trumpeteers. BOTH sides are playing us with propaganda.

Sweden DOES admit there are problems. From a SWEDISH governmental police report:

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Det finns 53 områden i Sverige som i olika grad är utsatta både
för allvarlig brottslighet och socioekonomiska faktorer.
Av dessa områden är 15 att anse som särskilt utsatta.
Brottsligheten i områdena kan yttra sig genom våldshandlingar,
upplopp narkotikahandel och annan allvarlig brottslighet som påverkar de boende både direkt och indirek.

Translation: There are 53 sites in Sweden and in varying degrees, vulnerable both of serious crime and socio-economic factors.
Of these 15 areas are considered to be particularly vulnerable.
Crime areas can manifest itself through acts of violence,
riots drug trafficking and other serious crime affecting the residents both direct and indirectly.


The report goes on to say:

These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. What is true, however, is that in several of these areas the police have experienced difficulties fulfilling their duties


So do a little reading and stop being a mindless tool of the media. You won't though. You enjoy being a biter, lazy, old man.
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Once again you are so full of shit Garison.
I'm afraid it's you who's full of shit:
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He focused on an unspecified event that took place “last night in Sweden” ...
The only problem is that nothing happened the prior night in Sweden.
The Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet posted a list of things that did happen that day, and none of them was a terrorist attack. Later reports showed that the "attack" Trump saw was a documentary from somewhere around 2002.

You are saying that you, in Las Vegas, know more about what happens in Sweden than the Swedes themselves. That's Trump-like arrogance.


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The only problem is that nothing happened the prior night in Sweden.
The Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet posted a list of things that did happen that day, and none of them was a terrorist attack. Later reports showed that the "attack" Trump saw was a documentary from somewhere around 2002.

Time to get some reading glasses Gramps, I said Trump was wrong.

You are saying that you, in Las Vegas, know more about what happens in Sweden than the Swedes themselves. That's Trump-like arrogance.

Especially when I know people who actually live in Sweden as opposed to you and your worldly trailer camp neighbors. Gee, blind gramps, who did I quote? The Swedes themselves. I guess you find it hard being an old snowflake.

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I hope not.

You, on the other hand, have taken holding a grudge to ridiculous extremes. It's time for you to grow up.

What are you babbling about? Did you even read the post? I said Trump was wrong you idiot. Admit you are wrong for once. The only grudge I have is you being a major twat recently.
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Good thing you're not being a major twat.

Where in hell is the sarcasm font?
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The only grudge I have is you being a major twat recently.
Good thing you're not being a major twat.

Where in hell is the sarcasm font?


Oh I can be too. I must be getting old. But still will never be as old as you.
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You hate Trump so much you accept everything negative.
And you hate me so much, you make up stuff about me. (Hm. Isn't there someone in the White House who makes up stuff?)

As with everything I post here, when I see something in the news I research it. Both sides. In the end, I often know more about the situation than either side, because I get the facts that the oppositionists ignore. Once I have all of the fact, I analyze them all and make my decision.

I've mentioned this at least two or three dozen times in this forum, and yet you still lie about my motivations. And you say I'm being a twat!
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You hate Trump so much you accept everything negative.
And you hate me so much, you make up stuff about me. (Hm. Isn't there someone in the White House who makes up stuff?)

who says I hate you? I only react to your actions.

As with everything I post here, when I see something in the news I research it. Both sides. In the end, I often know more about the situation than either side, because I get the facts that the oppositionists ignore. Once I have all of the fact, I analyze them all and make my decision.

And yet you never call-out the left when they are clearly in the wrong.


I've mentioned this at least two or three dozen times in this forum, and yet you still lie about my motivations. And you say I'm being a twat!

And I have stated at least two or three dozen times in this forum that I am not a "Trumpeteer" you lie about my motivations. And yes, you have been a major twat at times.
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The problem with Trump being wrong in this instance is that he wasn't.
The media deliberately lied about what he said.

Trump had referred to a documentary about problems occurring in Sweden and the audience, including the media, knew it. However, the media saw a chance to drum up more proof of Trump's Troubles and deliberately misreported what he said so they could point the finger and laugh. And the legions of anti-Trumps swallowed the bait whole, pointed, and laughed, totally ignoring the savage truth behind what Trump was saying. After all, they wouldn't want to admit that Trump might be right and that there are big problems with Muslim immigration.
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What are you babbling about? Did you even read the post? I said Trump was wrong you idiot. Admit you are wrong for once.
The problem with Trump being wrong in this instance is that he wasn't.
The media deliberately lied about what he said.

Trump had referred to a documentary about problems occurring in Sweden and the audience, including the media, knew it. However, the media saw a chance to drum up more proof of Trump's Troubles and deliberately misreported what he said so they could point the finger and laugh. And the legions of anti-Trumps swallowed the bait whole, pointed, and laughed, totally ignoring the savage truth behind what Trump was saying. After all, they wouldn't want to admit that Trump might be right and that there are big problems with Muslim immigration.

I got the impression that Trump (or his team) over stated how "big" the problem is. The people who I know in Sweden who described it to me had the same level of crime/gangs as we have in most inner cities. There are no "roaming gangs of rapists" (as some right media implies) nor is it "nothing happening" (as the left claims). The hype is because, good or bad, Sweden is not use to these levels unlike the USA. So, yes, there are problems in Sweden just like the USA has problems with certain groups.
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I am not a "Trumpeteer"
Then why do you keep defending him?


I defend him when the left attacks or unjustly implies things about Trump that are untrue, just as I attack Trump for surrounding himself with religious zealots and anti-science stances.

Why can't you admit the left wing media is just as bad as the right wing media?
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You hate Trump so much you accept everything negative.
And you hate me so much, you make up stuff about me. (Hm. Isn't there someone in the White House who makes up stuff?)

As with everything I post here, when I see something in the news I research it. Both sides. In the end, I often know more about the situation than either side, because I get the facts that the oppositionists ignore. Once I have all of the fact, I analyze them all and make my decision.

I've mentioned this at least two or three dozen times in this forum, and yet you still lie about my motivations. And you say I'm being a twat!

Say what. Awhile back you posted a web page that was a list of articles from different sources, that were all negative stories about trump.. All the stories you believed were true. When I pointed out that all the stories ended their rant in either these are things trump could do/Is accused of doing/ or we hope he does do. You disappeared, and made no counter statement saying oh well after doing some research all of these stories were false.

Or how about you being dead set on trump being a rapitist, even though what little info the girl did provide was wrong and inconclusive. Or how the girls original charges towards trump were so outrageous it was obvious she was lying. No you didn't read about any of that, you had made up your mind that trump was a rapist, and refused to look at any other info.

So don't give me that crap that you research both sides. You hear what the left has to say repeat it like a parrot until its proven wrong, then you disappear on the matter.
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