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Old 07-03-2017, 06:41 PM   #1
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Perhaps McCarthy was Right?

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No, no he really wasn't, but he was a fucking liar who ruined people's lives for his own political gain.
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No, no he really wasn't, but he was a fucking liar who ruined people's lives for his own political gain.

Wow, you just described the last two Democratic Presidents and Candidate for President.
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No, no he really wasn't, but he was a fucking liar who ruined people's lives for his own political gain.

Wow, you just described the last two Democratic Presidents and Candidate for President.
As well as more than a few Republicans. But no, Obama and Clinton, both Clintons even, did enough other good stuff to leave some sort of positive legacy. McCarthy did not, his sole contribution to history was HUAC.
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Wow, you just described the last two Democratic Presidents and Candidate for President.
As well as more than a few Republicans. But no, Obama and Clinton, both Clintons even, did enough other good stuff to leave some sort of positive legacy. McCarthy did not, his sole contribution to history was HUAC.

Really, what good stuff? Where are the Jobs Obama promised, where is the good credit rating the U.S. use to have, what happened to our manufacturing base (start leaving under Clinton and is mostly gone thanks to Obama and the lies of the ARRA).

There is a political radio show, out of NYC, and the host is so left wing that he should have to were the Hammer and Cical, and he had said many time, griping about those that voted for Trump, that Trump is not going to keep any of his campaign promists. Well to that I say that still makes him better then Hillary, since if she keep hers, Her U.S. would be a land of White Male need not apply!
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As well as more than a few Republicans. But no, Obama and Clinton, both Clintons even, did enough other good stuff to leave some sort of positive legacy. McCarthy did not, his sole contribution to history was HUAC.

Really, what good stuff? Where are the Jobs Obama promised, where is the good credit rating the U.S. use to have, what happened to our manufacturing base (start leaving under Clinton and is mostly gone thanks to Obama and the lies of the ARRA).
Obamacare massively improved access to healthcare for impoverished Americans, he re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba and warmed relations with Iran, and made the world as a whole trust America again. I said they was good things, not necessarily good for you.
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So, Obamacare is it then?

And, its failing. In fact, it was really a cruel ploy to give people something you knew was not sustainable and now it has to be "saved". Except the Democrats are sitting on their asses and not being part of the solution. That's grand of them, isn't it? They hooked people in on Obamacare the way a dealer hooks a drug addict in with free dope. And, that's his lasting legacy?

And, people say he was one of the best POTUS ever? LOL

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Really, what good stuff? Where are the Jobs Obama promised, where is the good credit rating the U.S. use to have, what happened to our manufacturing base (start leaving under Clinton and is mostly gone thanks to Obama and the lies of the ARRA).
Obamacare massively improved access to healthcare for impoverished Americans, he re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba and warmed relations with Iran, and made the world as a whole trust America again. I said they was good things, not necessarily good for you.
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Not interested in defending McCarthy, per se. But, the Venona project proved that there were a lot of Commie spies in the USA. Rosenbergs were guilty. Alger Hiss - guilty. All proven by our decrypting Soviet cables.

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No, no he really wasn't, but he was a fucking liar who ruined people's lives for his own political gain.
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And, people say he was one of the best POTUS ever? LOL
I wouldn't say best, but definitely above average, and I do expect him to have a mostly positive legacy in the history books. Bush as well, or at least a favorable one. Regardless, I don't expect either one's encyclopedia entry to have "Lead a reign of terror based on a Goddamn laundry list."
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Seriously... Obamacare is all he has. And, it is failing.

Its almost like you want him to have been a successful POTUS just because of, say, other reasons.

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Seriously... Obamacare is all he has. And, it is failing.
1. Still disagree, he'll also have the improving diplomatic relations, and historians love that shit.
2. Even if that is the case, it just brings him down to Bush's level of "Didn't do a helluva lot of good, but also didn't do a helluva lot of evil", which still puts them both well above Tailgunner Joe.
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So, Obamacare is it then?

And, its failing. In fact, it was really a cruel ploy to give people something you knew was not sustainable and now it has to be "saved". Except the Democrats are sitting on their asses and not being part of the solution. That's grand of them, isn't it? They hooked people in on Obamacare the way a dealer hooks a drug addict in with free dope. And, that's his lasting legacy?

And, people say he was one of the best POTUS ever? LOL

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Obamacare massively improved access to healthcare for impoverished Americans, he re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba and warmed relations with Iran, and made the world as a whole trust America again. I said they was good things, not necessarily good for you.

It's very... unique to describe increased healthcare access as a drug. Very stupid, but also very unique.

And what part of the solution could they be a part of? The Republican alternative is just a tax cut bill disguised as a healthcare bill that they've been working on in secret. Say what you will about the final vote tally for the ACA, but it still had over 150 Republican amendments to it.
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No, no he really wasn't, but he was a fucking liar who ruined people's lives for his own political gain.

McCarthy felt there was a vast group of communist supporters with in the nation seeking to undermine the United States. Both form this video, the supporters of Slander's, and various other extreme leftist, as well as the interview with the KGB agent in the video, seams to suggest his base idea was not incorrect.

As per his witch hunts, they were wrong, and no less wrong then when the left today using race and the threat being accused of racism, use of Affirmative Action to destroy peoples lives, just because of there genetic ancestry and political beliefs, etc.
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I wouldn't say best, but definitely above average, and I do expect him to have a mostly positive legacy in the history books. Bush as well, or at least a favorable one. Regardless, I don't expect either one's encyclopedia entry to have "Lead a reign of terror based on a Goddamn laundry list."

I will off set your Obama care, with the Chinese tires! They were a great issue in 2012, that Obama used his tariff to say he saved thousands of jobs, but the day after the election the entire issue was dropped, and the Chinese could dump tires into the U.S. again, because he no longer needed the American people, so he stopped caring about them, as if he ever really did!
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It is unique because it is a good analogy. You give people free shit that 1) if you didn't know wasn't sustainable then you're incompetent or 2) did know and are just plain evil.

It was also clever on the Dems' part because the only option (in their mind) is to move down the road to single payer. *shrugs* "We tried...but now we have to do this".

And, sadly, I think that is ultimately the only way to truly "fix" it at this point. We've created such an entitlement state that we'd probably have a full on revolt if we ever has an austerity plan to go the other route to fix it.

Either way, it is Obama's lasting legacy. If he spins it right then he can say he was the founding father of socialized medicine in the USA.

Purely politically speaking, the Dems own Obamacare. Its a mess. No GOP votes on it at all. But, now the GOP is in power and kept harping on "fixing it" - they are taking ownership of it. Politically speaking, it is stupid of them. They should let it fail. Again, purely politically speaking.

Doing the right thing? Both parties should work together to fix it. LOL. Like that is gonna happen. So, America suffers because of it.


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So, Obamacare is it then?

And, its failing. In fact, it was really a cruel ploy to give people something you knew was not sustainable and now it has to be "saved". Except the Democrats are sitting on their asses and not being part of the solution. That's grand of them, isn't it? They hooked people in on Obamacare the way a dealer hooks a drug addict in with free dope. And, that's his lasting legacy?

And, people say he was one of the best POTUS ever? LOL


It's very... unique to describe increased healthcare access as a drug. Very stupid, but also very unique.

And what part of the solution could they be a part of? The Republican alternative is just a tax cut bill disguised as a healthcare bill that they've been working on in secret. Say what you will about the final vote tally for the ACA, but it still had over 150 Republican amendments to it.
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I have no doubt that the historians will make Obama out to be some sort of great leader. Most historians are libs so I'd expect no less.

"improving diplomatic relations".... With Iran? And Cuba? He gave Iran a sweetheart deal and basically propped up a murderous regime with straight up cash, homie. Nice work.

Meh, you say Cuba and Iran and point to Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iraq. The scales weigh heavily in failure as for as his international report card goes. So, we look back to Obamacare.

And, I'm actually surprised that you'd compare GW Bush favorably at all.



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Seriously... Obamacare is all he has. And, it is failing.
1. Still disagree, he'll also have the improving diplomatic relations, and historians love that shit.
2. Even if that is the case, it just brings him down to Bush's level of "Didn't do a helluva lot of good, but also didn't do a helluva lot of evil", which still puts them both well above Tailgunner Joe.
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Doing the right thing? Both parties should work together to fix it. LOL. Like that is gonna happen. So, America suffers because of it.

That may be the single most true statement make on this board in a very very long time. Neither side is really interested in fixing anything, they need a certain level of pain, suffered by those that don't like, to maintain there power.
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McCarthy may have been a real SOB and a drunk. But, his base idea was correct as proven by declassified intercepts.

And, the interview with the KGB agent. Spot on. The Soviets, er, Russians have been playing the long game for decades. We are their patsy and fall right into their trap over and over again.

The Russians specialized (and still do) in "disinformation". I recommend reading Pacepa's Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

Also, do some reading on the Venona cables.

But as for the above video... Analysis is spot on about indoctrinating generations of "soft heads" with leftist ideas. From the 1960s until now, our colleges and universities are the playground of people seeking to destroy America. The thing is, I doubt the Russians really have to put forth an effort anymore on campuses. They've built generations of loyal followers who do it themselves. It is probably one of the greatest achievements of a foreign government over the USA.

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Not interested in defending McCarthy, per se. But, the Venona project proved that there were a lot of Commie spies in the USA. Rosenbergs were guilty. Alger Hiss - guilty. All proven by our decrypting Soviet cables.


McCarthy felt there was a vast group of communist supporters with in the nation seeking to undermine the United States. Both form this video, the supporters of Slander's, and various other extreme leftist, as well as the interview with the KGB agent in the video, seams to suggest his base idea was not incorrect.

As per his witch hunts, they were wrong, and no less wrong then when the left today using race and the threat being accused of racism, use of Affirmative Action to destroy peoples lives, just because of there genetic ancestry and political beliefs, etc.
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And, I'm actually surprised that you'd compare GW Bush favorably at all.
Yes, well, one of us has to acknowledge that the other side isn't always evil.
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Doing the right thing? Both parties should work together to fix it. LOL. Like that is gonna happen. So, America suffers because of it.

That may be the single most true statement make on this board in a very very long time. Neither side is really interested in fixing anything, they need a certain level of pain, suffered by those that don't like, to maintain there power.
The fuck are you talking about?
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