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Old 07-01-2017, 07:41 AM   #21
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Not a problem. Do what governments always do. Raise taxes.
Leaving aside the fact that as you know "Just raise taxes LOL" is not an option in the current political climate, the last time I did the calculations, the cheapest option for a basic income would have cost several hundred billion dollars per year, while the simplest option would have required doubling or tripling the current budget. Alternatively, we don't really need taxes when we can just do as Alaska does and share out dividends from the National Permanent Fund, but given that we need several hundred billion in annual dividends, that would require capturing a large portion of the US economy.

You do realize this is aleady done. The money instead of going to the people it goes to mass transit, schools, parks ect. All the stuff Alaska doesn't have. So If you want your pay check you need to tell your politicians to stop spending your money.
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:20 AM   #22
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as usual, this is another thread that goes off topic - hijacked by people who
just want to rail at one another. Instead of trying to discuss the pros and cons of open carry, and what it means to civilization, reps and dems will start attacking each other .
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Leaving aside the fact that as you know "Just raise taxes LOL" is not an option in the current political climate, the last time I did the calculations, the cheapest option for a basic income would have cost several hundred billion dollars per year, while the simplest option would have required doubling or tripling the current budget. Alternatively, we don't really need taxes when we can just do as Alaska does and share out dividends from the National Permanent Fund, but given that we need several hundred billion in annual dividends, that would require capturing a large portion of the US economy.

You do realize this is aleady done. The money instead of going to the people it goes to mass transit, schools, parks ect. All the stuff Alaska doesn't have. So If you want your pay check you need to tell your politicians to stop spending your money.

Alaska doesn't have public schools or parks? Lolwut
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You do realize this is aleady done. The money instead of going to the people it goes to mass transit, schools, parks ect. All the stuff Alaska doesn't have. So If you want your pay check you need to tell your politicians to stop spending your money.

Alaska doesn't have public schools or parks? Lolwut

Sad that is best defense for idiotic comment. Yes I worded it badly but your still the one that didn't know that is already done basically in every state
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Open carry isn't smart. Concealed carry is the way to go. I'm not against open carry. I'd just choose to conceal mine. Some crack head decides he wants to rob a drug store is probably going to whack the guy open carrying. Whereas, if you aren't sure if someone is carrying or not...

I lived in AZ for a time and it was something to see people with big ass .44 magnums strapped to their waist. I'm guessing nobody fucked with them though. So, there's that.

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Alaska doesn't have public schools or parks? Lolwut

Sad that is best defense for idiotic comment. Yes I worded it badly but your still the one that didn't know that is already done basically in every state

I mean, you said that Alaska doesn't have public schools or parks, so you're not exactly coming from a position of strength here buddy.

Again, Alaska has all of the things you described, and the annual oil check. Quit using dart logic and tell me how that's actually similar to any other state.
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Sad that is best defense for idiotic comment. Yes I worded it badly but your still the one that didn't know that is already done basically in every state

I mean, you said that Alaska doesn't have public schools or parks, so you're not exactly coming from a position of strength here buddy.

Again, Alaska has all of the things you described, and the annual oil check. Quit using dart logic and tell me how that's actually similar to any other state.


O e more time yes I worded that badly did you catch that, that time. Public lands is owned by the people profits go back to the people if you dot understand that can't explain it to you then
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