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Old 04-21-2017, 02:21 PM   #1
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UPS Trucks Don’t Turn Left and Neither Should You
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UPS drivers will never turn left—and other drivers should consider doing the same.
If you follow a delivery truck along its route, you will see it avoid left turns. This isn’t some superstition involving packages and cross-traffic turns. It’s actually the result of a complex mathematical problem equation that has saved UPS millions of dollars.
Vehicle routing problems were developed in 1959 as a way to organize moving objects. Basically these types of problems take into account of variety of factors to determine the best way to get from point A to B.
One of these equations is working inside UPS trucks to help drivers find the best possible way to deliver their packages (Google Maps this program is not).
UPS’s vehicle routing software has determined that turning left is a waste of time and money. (Well, not left specifically. The rule applies to countries where cars drive on the righthand side of the road.) Although reducing cross-traffic turns may increase time spent to get to a destination, it reduces chances of an accident and eliminates time spent waiting for traffic to make a turn (which wastes fuel).
The policy was announced back in 2004 and has since helped the company use 10 million gallons less fuel, emit 20,000 less tonnes of carbon dioxide and deliver 350,000 more packages. However some left turns are unavoidable. The company says that left turns make up less than 10 percent of all UPS truck turns.
So what is there to learn from all of this?
Although the whole thing may seem far-fetched, Mythbusters put UPS’s rule to the test and found that eliminating left turns does save fuel.As The Conversation argues, if everybody agreed to no longer turn left, it could translate into massive savings and reduced carbon emissions from everybody on the road. But (unfortunately) people are generally unwilling to change their ways unless it benefits them personally. Although right turns only would eliminate waits at intersections, it could also tack on extra time to a drive.
But for those who are willing to consider an extra couple of minutes in exchange for fuel savings, eliminating left turns on upcoming road trips could actually be the wisest decision you make behind the wheel.This article originally appeared on TravelandLeisure.com

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I always drive past down to the next intersection or traffic light to find a designated left turn lane.
especially in multilane road traffic situations.
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J Edgar Hoover beat UPS to this.
His drivers were instructed to never make a left hand turn.
A man ahead of his times, obviously.
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I've seen UPS trucks make left turns plenty of times.

What the above doesn't take into account is that oftentimes, making three rights to go left takes longer than waiting for traffic to clear.
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I've seen UPS trucks make left turns plenty of times.

What the above doesn't take into account is that oftentimes, making three rights to go left takes longer than waiting for traffic to clear.
They clearly state that it takes more time and is a greater distance but uses less fuel
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I've seen UPS trucks make left turns plenty of times.

What the above doesn't take into account is that oftentimes, making three rights to go left takes longer than waiting for traffic to clear.
They clearly state that it takes more time and is a greater distance but uses less fuel
Hold the fuck up. Minimizing left turns cost an additional 1.6 miles, and 9 minutes of travel time, but saved 2.8lbs of fuel? Explain this witchcraft.
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Hold the fuck up. Minimizing left turns cost an additional 1.6 miles, and 9 minutes of travel time, but saved 2.8lbs of fuel? Explain this witchcraft.
Watch the video, and if 2:19 is too long skip up to 1:44 for the results (the image i posted) note they also say for a normal person it isn't very practical. They give no explanation as to why, but I imagine all the coming to and starting from a complete stop associated with left turns is the main reason.
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Less idling time. The longer you have to wait to make the turn, the more gas you use. According to theory.

However, this only holds true on test courses, and in cities with perfectly square, short blocks. In the rest of the world, it's nonsense. There are several places right here in Roswell where there are plenty of left turns but no right turns, and places where the right you take to avoid making the left will take you into the next town, fifteen or more miles away.

So, each turning situation has to be judged on its own merits, and, in my experience, left turns win out as being more economical. If there are no lights, for example, and no oncoming traffic, the left turn is far more efficient that three rights. Ditto at a traffic signal, if you have the red, and have to wait anyway. In fact, the above assertion falls flat at any traffic light, regardless of the color. If you pass the intersection and make three rights to avoid turning left, you have no guarantee that the crossing light will be green when you return to it.

You also have to consider the cost of gas against the cost of your time. If you are a UPS driver making deliveries, you want to save the nine minutes travel time, and not worry about the 2.8 pounds of gasoline. That translates to a little under a gallon of gas, which here in Roswell is $2.40. So, which is more important: the time saved, or the $1.12 saved?

This theory only holds true in very specific circumstances, and is dead wrong in all other cases. Which to me means it's just wrong.
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Hold the fuck up. Minimizing left turns cost an additional 1.6 miles, and 9 minutes of travel time, but saved 2.8lbs of fuel? Explain this witchcraft.


It's very simple vehicles have a range where they get the best gas mileage so only making rights keeps the rpm of the engine in that range as there is less stopping and starting. A car accelerating from a stop has its gas mileage drop to about 2 miles to the gallon. So no witchcraft just common logic
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Hold the fuck up. Minimizing left turns cost an additional 1.6 miles, and 9 minutes of travel time, but saved 2.8lbs of fuel? Explain this witchcraft.
Less idling time. The longer you have to wait to make the turn, the more gas you use. According to theory.

However, this only holds true on test courses, and in cities with perfectly square, short blocks. In the rest of the world, it's nonsense. There are several places right here in Roswell where there are plenty of left turns but no right turns, and places where the right you take to avoid making the left will take you into the next town, fifteen or more miles away.

So, each turning situation has to be judged on its own merits, and, in my experience, left turns win out as being more economical. If there are no lights, for example, and no oncoming traffic, the left turn is far more efficient that three rights. Ditto at a traffic signal, if you have the red, and have to wait anyway. In fact, the above assertion falls flat at any traffic light, regardless of the color. If you pass the intersection and make three rights to avoid turning left, you have no guarantee that the crossing light will be green when you return to it.

You also have to consider the cost of gas against the cost of your time. If you are a UPS driver making deliveries, you want to save the nine minutes travel time, and not worry about the 2.8 pounds of gasoline. That translates to a little under a gallon of gas, which here in Roswell is $2.40. So, which is more important: the time saved, or the $1.12 saved?

This theory only holds true in very specific circumstances, and is dead wrong in all other cases. Which to me means it's just wrong.

No it holds true all the time you are thinking of your personal driving. Which is much different than a ups driver that is driving in a giant circle. Any time you have four or more points turnin right will always save gas
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No it holds true all the time you are thinking of your personal driving. Which is much different than a ups driver that is driving in a giant circle.
If the UPS driver is driving in the same area that I am, then his driving is exactly the same as mine.

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You need to understand that you rarely know what you are talking about, and that you are always wrong. This is just another case.

Heading North on Main Street from in front of the Roswell Mall, the Berrendo Elementary School is one left turn away, a distance of 0.5 miles.

To get there making only right turns, you have to drive all the way up to Ladrones Road (Rt 97), follow the curve (which goes left) and take that to North Atkinson Road, then make a soft right onto Old Clovis Highway, and another on East Pine Lodge Road, which takes you to the stoplight, where you'll probably have to wait for it to change (and it's a long light). You cross the divided highway, and drive the remaining quarter mile to the school.

Total distance: 4.2 miles.

If you're driving a big brown truck that gets maybe 15 miles to the gallon, that 4.2 miles translates to 0.28 gallons, plus whatever time you are idling at that light. The half-mile, however, will be negligible: about four ounces, plus a little extra for the idling, which will also be negligible, because, as I said, it's a long light.

So your "cheaper" route uses nine times the amount of gas the left turn uses, and you think that's less.

Please try to remember that you never know what you're talking about.
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In the video Carrie says "If you're a delivery truck driver in an urban environment, you're definitely gonna want to plan a right hand route, but, if you're me, in a little tiny car... not very practical" - So the experiment was targeting cities, in a grid pattern, but it should be obvious that was where the bulk of the wasted fuel is to begin with in a delivery company, on country roads you rarely have to even wait to make a left, so left turns and right turns are about the same. Plus without the grid pattern all bets are off on even getting the ability to make 3 rights and wind up back where you were without traveling out of the way enough to offset the gain.
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You need to understand that you rarely know what you are talking about, and that you are always wrong. This is just another case.

Heading North on Main Street from in front of the Roswell Mall, the Berrendo Elementary School is one left turn away, a distance of 0.5 miles.

To get there making only right turns, you have to drive all the way up to Ladrones Road (Rt 97), follow the curve (which goes left) and take that to North Atkinson Road, then make a soft right onto Old Clovis Highway, and another on East Pine Lodge Road, which takes you to the stoplight, where you'll probably have to wait for it to change (and it's a long light). You cross the divided highway, and drive the remaining quarter mile to the school.

Total distance: 4.2 miles.

If you're driving a big brown truck that gets maybe 15 miles to the gallon, that 4.2 miles translates to 0.28 gallons, plus whatever time you are idling at that light. The half-mile, however, will be negligible: about four ounces, plus a little extra for the idling, which will also be negligible, because, as I said, it's a long light.

So your "cheaper" route uses nine times the amount of gas the left turn uses, and you think that's less.

Please try to remember that you never know what you're talking about.

You need to understand you have zero comprehension, and zero understanding. I pointed out that your only thinking of your driving habits, then you go on to describe your driving habits. there a huge dur dur right there.

Then your description is a travel of point A to point B. Your next dur dur. If you noticed I said you need a circle of travel with at least four points to make turning right gas saving.

Fuck did you even read what I wrote or did you just get stuck in your little world again, not realizing people out there do way more shit than you would ever think of doing.

Almost forgot to mention you also apparently didn't pay attention to what I said to darth. More mileage doesn't always equate to more fuel consumption. So the whole you have to travel further it must use more gas is just idiotic thinking. A ups truck gets about 22 on the highway, and around 2 in stop and go traffic, so making right hand turns to avoid the stop and go makes a huge difference in gas used even though you are traveling a greater distance.

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Then your description is a travel of point A to point B. Your next dur dur. If you noticed I said you need a circle of travel with at least four points to make turning right gas saving.
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Fuck, did you even read what I wrote? Of course you didn't. You're stupid, and you never read what I write.

Your "circle of traffic with at least four points" is exactly what I said. This method only works in a city, or on the Mythbuster's test course. It does not work anywhere else. You're not only stupid enough to tell me I'm wrong when I'm not, but you're so stupid you say I'm wrong, and then say the exact same thing I did.

It's really long past time for you to leave this forum. You are simply too stupid to hold an intelligent conversation. Go away.
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Then your description is a travel of point A to point B. Your next dur dur. If you noticed I said you need a circle of travel with at least four points to make turning right gas saving.
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Fuck, did you even read what I wrote? Of course you didn't. You're stupid, and you never read what I write.

Your "circle of traffic with at least four points" is exactly what I said. This method only works in a city, or on the Mythbuster's test course. It does not work anywhere else. You're not only stupid enough to tell me I'm wrong when I'm not, but you're so stupid you say I'm wrong, and then say the exact same thing I did.

It's really long past time for you to leave this forum. You are simply too stupid to hold an intelligent conversation. Go away.

Did you read what you wrote you gave point a to point b. That is two points not four. There was also no return path, so there was no going in a circle. You are smart to realize that turns are not points of destination right.

So in reality if this was a real ups route the truck would got ladrones rd make a delivery,the go to north atikson rd make a delivery, then to north clovis make a delivery,then to east pine and make a delivery, then to elemenatary school and make a delivery. then it would drive back to its home office, which would a be a nice short .5 mile shot.

That is how a route works in reality, they look at the map and go we have a drop here and a drop here so which route gets us there in a right hand circle. They don't go well I'll drive straight to here and do this delievery and ignore all other deliveries because it is the shortest route.

So one more time your thinking of your own personal driving habits, which is much different than a ups drivers habits. I tell you, your wrong because you are. You have a hard time seeing anything much out of your little world.

Its really funny you tell me I need to leave because I can't hold an intelligent conversation, when the majority of your counter arguments boil down to "well your stupid". Yep your putting out some real ground breaking arguments there.
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while garison does go on considerable, dartshitter is way out there in every thread, driveling
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while garison does go on considerable, dartshitter is way out there in every thread, driveling
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Sniff sniff, whine whine, don't like it too bad. Only thing you do here is sling insults, and say idiotic things. You got no room to bitch about anybody here.
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Isn't that the whole point of the MD. Does anything that is argued over here matter. It is not like somebodys argument is going to change the mind of someone else here. So truly every thread in the MD is an argument over nothing.
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Heeeyyyy, I haven't even post (yet) in this thread, leave daft and I out of it.
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