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Old 03-23-2017, 04:38 AM   #101
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Wow really, you deflected off on a tangent about wether my use of puncation was correct or not.
Does it make you feel good to lie, or is it just something you don't realize you're doing? Where did I deflect into your "puncation"?


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To avoid the question I asked you, then try to say I'm defelcting,when I'm refering to the orginal point,and not your idiotic deflection technique. So I guess your done deflecting and you have gone to twisting the story now.

The question is neither dumb nor am I, you can't answer the question, so you resort to insults.
I answered it, you just don't want to admit that I did. Maybe you didn't like, or even understand, the answer. But it was answered.

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I'll tell ya what I'll tell ya how I squatted 800lbs as soon as you tell me being the great business man that you are, that you didn't know most commercial buildings only have one power meter, or how a triple net lease is rarely used in short term leases, or how 1/10% is not a common value.
I never claimed to be a "great businessman". That's your characterization so that you can make feeble attempts at insults. And, everybody except you knows what 1/10% is - what's wrong with you?
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Old 03-23-2017, 06:54 AM   #102
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Does it make you feel good to lie, or is it just something you don't realize you're doing? Where did I deflect into your "puncation"?


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To avoid the question I asked you, then try to say I'm defelcting,when I'm refering to the orginal point,and not your idiotic deflection technique. So I guess your done deflecting and you have gone to twisting the story now.

The question is neither dumb nor am I, you can't answer the question, so you resort to insults.
I answered it, you just don't want to admit that I did. Maybe you didn't like, or even understand, the answer. But it was answered.

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I'll tell ya what I'll tell ya how I squatted 800lbs as soon as you tell me being the great business man that you are, that you didn't know most commercial buildings only have one power meter, or how a triple net lease is rarely used in short term leases, or how 1/10% is not a common value.
I never claimed to be a "great businessman". That's your characterization so that you can make feeble attempts at insults. And, everybody except you knows what 1/10% is - what's wrong with you?


Haha what? You have a serious problem following a thread don't you. Mabey read back thru two or three times see if it makes sence to then.

No it wasn't answered, you may have half assed an attempt at an excuse that you thought was an answer, but no you have not answered the question all you have done is avoid it. Please repeat the answer or direct to which post you answered it.

Nope bill that was all you again. You claimed you were this big important business man, that you had ran tv stations and other important big businesses. So no feeble attempt at an insult, either you sucked at your job, or you lied about your experiences.

If everyone know what 1/10% means then simply give me a link proving your right. If everyone knows it then it should be real easy to prove yourself right. I know I looked everywhere actually trying to prove you right, I couldn't find one math sight that used that as a value, I couldn't find one article that used that as a value, I couldn't find one scientific paper that used that as a value. I couldn't find anything that used it period. If everyone knows what it is you would think someone else would have used it somewhere on the internet.

Also I love how the deflection technique didn't work, so your now trying to flip it on to me technique. Seriously its getting sad, you couldn't argue your way out of a wet paper bag.
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Old 03-24-2017, 05:39 AM   #103
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No it wasn't answered, you may have half assed an attempt at an excuse that you thought was an answer, but no you have not answered the question all you have done is avoid it. Please repeat the answer or direct to which post you answered it.
Post number 99. You just didn't like the answer.
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They talked for seven years about repeal and REPLACE, yet they never came up with a replacement. It was bullshit and they knew it, you should have too. Now they've got a bill but it was put together so quickly and sloppily that it's not going to pass. It doesn't matter whether Trump will sign it or not because it will never get to him in its present form. If they ever get something on his desk it will be far different than what they have now.

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Nope bill that was all you again. You claimed you were this big important business man, that you had ran tv stations and other important big businesses. So no feeble attempt at an insult, either you sucked at your job, or you lied about your experiences.
Direct us to the post where I claimed that, or give it up.

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If everyone know what 1/10% means then simply give me a link proving your right. If everyone knows it then it should be real easy to prove yourself right. I know I looked everywhere actually trying to prove you right, I couldn't find one math sight that used that as a value, I couldn't find one article that used that as a value, I couldn't find one scientific paper that used that as a value. I couldn't find anything that used it period. If everyone knows what it is you would think someone else would have used it somewhere on the internet.
You're the only one who didn't understand it. Since you're the only one who didn't understand it, the fault lies with you.
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Old 03-24-2017, 08:28 AM   #104
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Post number 99. You just didn't like the answer.
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They talked for seven years about repeal and REPLACE, yet they never came up with a replacement. It was bullshit and they knew it, you should have too. Now they've got a bill but it was put together so quickly and sloppily that it's not going to pass. It doesn't matter whether Trump will sign it or not because it will never get to him in its present form. If they ever get something on his desk it will be far different than what they have now.

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Nope bill that was all you again. You claimed you were this big important business man, that you had ran tv stations and other important big businesses. So no feeble attempt at an insult, either you sucked at your job, or you lied about your experiences.
Direct us to the post where I claimed that, or give it up.

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If everyone know what 1/10% means then simply give me a link proving your right. If everyone knows it then it should be real easy to prove yourself right. I know I looked everywhere actually trying to prove you right, I couldn't find one math sight that used that as a value, I couldn't find one article that used that as a value, I couldn't find one scientific paper that used that as a value. I couldn't find anything that used it period. If everyone knows what it is you would think someone else would have used it somewhere on the internet.
You're the only one who didn't understand it. Since you're the only one who didn't understand it, the fault lies with you.

Post 99 is not an answer it is repeating the same bullshit you have been saying. My question is in reference to that statement.

How in that seven year time period would the republicans have written a bill, when they did not know who would be president, and what that president would have wanted?

Its a real simple question bill that you can't seem to answer. Repeating the same thing over and over is not an answer.

You really want a post from over four years ago. You know you said it, your just playin the denial game because the truth has come out.

Oh I understood it bill, it was stated wrong, which is why I called you out on it. Your the one that doubled down and tried to claim it was a commonly used value. So you went from making a small mistake that you just wouldn't swallow your pride and say yep I was wrong, To a full on idiotic statement. An idiotic statement that you refuse to prove not to be an idiotic statement. Then you attempt to put your idiocy on to me by saying I didn't understand.

Its funny bill In the same post you want me to prove what I say is true with a source, then turn around and call me an idiot instead of providing a source to prove what you say is true.

Dear lord I think you have finally gone full retard.
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Ya ok I'm not the one that went off on a tangent. I'm not the one that was deflecting. As a matter of fact I kept repeating my question which was right on toplc. So grow up shu. You are the one attacking just to be attacking. So look in the mirror.
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Keep slapping, dart. That's all you're really good for.

Keep deflecting. Its about the only defense you got. Or hey instead of doing what your accusing me of, you could try to offer a counter argument.
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Post 99 is not an answer it is repeating the same bullshit you have been saying. My question is in reference to that statement.

How in that seven year time period would the republicans have written a bill, when they did not know who would be president, and what that president would have wanted?

Its a real simple question bill that you can't seem to answer. Repeating the same thing over and over is not an answer.
You just didn't like the answer. And after what happened today it's apparent that they couldn't even write a bill that would pass the republican dominated house. How incompetent is that? Trump campaigned on getting more people covered and bringing down medical costs. The failed bill does neither. They did not write a bill that met Trump's campaign promises, so why did they have to wait until Trump was in office to do it?

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You really want a post from over four years ago. You know you said it, your just playin the denial game because the truth has come out.
Bullshit! You lie about something and refuse to back it up. Typical of you.

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Oh I understood it bill, it was stated wrong, which is why I called you out on it. Your the one that doubled down and tried to claim it was a commonly used value. So you went from making a small mistake that you just wouldn't swallow your pride and say yep I was wrong, To a full on idiotic statement. An idiotic statement that you refuse to prove not to be an idiotic statement. Then you attempt to put your idiocy on to me by saying I didn't understand.
Once again, pay attention this time. You're the only one who did not understand it. The problem is with you.
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You just didn't like the answer. And after what happened today it's apparent that they couldn't even write a bill that would pass the republican dominated house. How incompetent is that? Trump campaigned on getting more people covered and bringing down medical costs. The failed bill does neither. They did not write a bill that met Trump's campaign promises, so why did they have to wait until Trump was in office to do it?

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You really want a post from over four years ago. You know you said it, your just playin the denial game because the truth has come out.
Bullshit! You lie about something and refuse to back it up. Typical of you.

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Oh I understood it bill, it was stated wrong, which is why I called you out on it. Your the one that doubled down and tried to claim it was a commonly used value. So you went from making a small mistake that you just wouldn't swallow your pride and say yep I was wrong, To a full on idiotic statement. An idiotic statement that you refuse to prove not to be an idiotic statement. Then you attempt to put your idiocy on to me by saying I didn't understand.
Once again, pay attention this time. You're the only one who did not understand it. The problem is with you.


There was no answer you repeated the exact same shit that lead to my question. repeating the exact same shit does not answer my question.
Hmm if they couldn't write a bill that full filled trumps campaign promise while he was in office, how the hell would they do it, when they wouldn't even know what his campaign promise would be. Or much less that he would even be president.

Haha Ok, This coming from the guy that dosen't back anything he says. You know you said it, you just don't want to admit that you lied that you were not the great business man you claimed you were.
But just so we are clear you are now saying you never ran a business. Or if you did run a business you ran it poorly.

No you pay attention, I already said I understood it. But it dosen't matter if I understood it or not it was wrong, and that is what I called you out on. Then you had the idiocy to double down and claim it was a commonly used value.

So lets skip over wether I understood it or not, simply show me where it is a commonly used value. Or you going to be a giant hypocrite again?

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There was no answer you repeated the exact same shit that lead to my question. repeating the exact same shit does not answer my question.
Repeating a claim that there was no answer does not mean there was no answer, it just means you didn't like it.

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Hmm if they couldn't write a bill that full filled trumps campaign promise while he was in office, how the hell would they do it, when they wouldn't even know what his campaign promise would be. Or much less that he would even be president.
Your ability to think logically is very shallow. They had seven years to come up with a replacement, they didn't do it. Then in about a month they cobbled together something, but it didn't comply with what Trump campaigned on. So why would they have had to wait seven years to write a bill if it wasn't going to mirror Trump's desires?

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Haha Ok, This coming from the guy that dosen't back anything he says. You know you said it, you just don't want to admit that you lied that you were not the great business man you claimed you were.
You can't find anywhere that I ever said I was a great businessman, so who's lieing?
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But just so we are clear you are now saying you never ran a business. Or if you did run a business you ran it poorly.
What a friggin' idiot! You know I've run businesses, large companies as part of a management team, and my small consulting business as the owner. All were run successfully.

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No you pay attention, I already said I understood it. But it dosen't matter if I understood it or not it was wrong, and that is what I called you out on. Then you had the idiocy to double down and claim it was a commonly used value.

So lets skip over wether I understood it or not, simply show me where it is a commonly used value. Or you going to be a giant hypocrite again?
If everyone else understood it then it must have been a common way of expressing one tenth of one percent. Get over yourself.
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Hmm if they couldn't write a bill that full filled trumps campaign promise while he was in office, how the hell would they do it, when they wouldn't even know what his campaign promise would be. Or much less that he would even be president.
Your ability to think logically is very shallow. They had seven years to come up with a replacement, they didn't do it. Then in about a month they cobbled together something, but it didn't comply with what Trump campaigned on. So why would they have had to wait seven years to write a bill if it wasn't going to mirror Trump's desires?

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Haha Ok, This coming from the guy that dosen't back anything he says. You know you said it, you just don't want to admit that you lied that you were not the great business man you claimed you were.
You can't find anywhere that I ever said I was a great businessman, so who's lieing?
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But just so we are clear you are now saying you never ran a business. Or if you did run a business you ran it poorly.
What a friggin' idiot! You know I've run businesses, large companies as part of a management team, and my small consulting business as the owner. All were run successfully.

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No you pay attention, I already said I understood it. But it dosen't matter if I understood it or not it was wrong, and that is what I called you out on. Then you had the idiocy to double down and claim it was a commonly used value.

So lets skip over wether I understood it or not, simply show me where it is a commonly used value. Or you going to be a giant hypocrite again?
If everyone else understood it then it must have been a common way of expressing one tenth of one percent. Get over yourself.

I'm not sure how else to get it thru thick head. Repeating the same thing that spured my question, does not answer my question. I'm not even sure how you think that answers my question. Because you said the exact same thing, so I still have the exact same question.

And again if they couldn't write something up to par with trump sitting right there. How would they write something that would work for trump with no input from him. And it goes back to what I originaly said how would they even know who was going to be president. You basically just want them to write random generic bills, for no reason. Because depending on who's final input goes into that bill, the whole random generic bill may have to be scraped as none of it may agree with who became president.

Who said I couldn't find it anywhere, I'm just not going to waste my time, because when I'm right you will make up some excuse then insult me, then run away so there is no point.

So you were businessman, and they were all ran succesfully. So your implying you were a great business man then since all were sucess. Hmm kinda contradicts what you have been saying.

Just because someone can understand, and comprehend your idiocy, in no way makes it common or correct. So again if it so common show me. I'll take just about any source at this point in time. Really its not me that needs to get over myself, that would be you, you were wrong, and your need to be right is so bad that you have insulted, you have deflected, you have outright lied. All to avoid admitting your wrong. Your arrogance is appaling, so you go ahead and get over yourself.
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Repeating a claim that there was no answer does not mean there was no answer, it just means you didn't like it.

Your ability to think logically is very shallow. They had seven years to come up with a replacement, they didn't do it. Then in about a month they cobbled together something, but it didn't comply with what Trump campaigned on. So why would they have had to wait seven years to write a bill if it wasn't going to mirror Trump's desires?

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Haha Ok, This coming from the guy that dosen't back anything he says. You know you said it, you just don't want to admit that you lied that you were not the great business man you claimed you were.
You can't find anywhere that I ever said I was a great businessman, so who's lieing?
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But just so we are clear you are now saying you never ran a business. Or if you did run a business you ran it poorly.
What a friggin' idiot! You know I've run businesses, large companies as part of a management team, and my small consulting business as the owner. All were run successfully.

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No you pay attention, I already said I understood it. But it dosen't matter if I understood it or not it was wrong, and that is what I called you out on. Then you had the idiocy to double down and claim it was a commonly used value.

So lets skip over wether I understood it or not, simply show me where it is a commonly used value. Or you going to be a giant hypocrite again?
If everyone else understood it then it must have been a common way of expressing one tenth of one percent. Get over yourself.

I'm not sure how else to get it thru thick head. Repeating the same thing that spured my question, does not answer my question. I'm not even sure how you think that answers my question. Because you said the exact same thing, so I still have the exact same question.

And again if they couldn't write something up to par with trump sitting right there. How would they write something that would work for trump with no input from him. And it goes back to what I originaly said how would they even know who was going to be president. You basically just want them to write random generic bills, for no reason. Because depending on who's final input goes into that bill, the whole random generic bill may have to be scraped as none of it may agree with who became president.

Who said I couldn't find it anywhere, I'm just not going to waste my time, because when I'm right you will make up some excuse then insult me, then run away so there is no point.

So you were businessman, and they were all ran succesfully. So your implying you were a great business man then since all were sucess. Hmm kinda contradicts what you have been saying.

Just because someone can understand, and comprehend your idiocy, in no way makes it common or correct. So again if it so common show me. I'll take just about any source at this point in time. Really its not me that needs to get over myself, that would be you, you were wrong, and your need to be right is so bad that you have insulted, you have deflected, you have outright lied. All to avoid admitting your wrong. Your arrogance is appaling, so you go ahead and get over yourself.
I'm done with your deflection, lieing, and just plain stupidity in this thread.
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Repeating a claim that there was no answer does not mean there was no answer, it just means you didn't like it.

Your ability to think logically is very shallow. They had seven years to come up with a replacement, they didn't do it. Then in about a month they cobbled together something, but it didn't comply with what Trump campaigned on. So why would they have had to wait seven years to write a bill if it wasn't going to mirror Trump's desires?

You can't find anywhere that I ever said I was a great businessman, so who's lieing?
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But just so we are clear you are now saying you never ran a business. Or if you did run a business you ran it poorly.
What a friggin' idiot! You know I've run businesses, large companies as part of a management team, and my small consulting business as the owner. All were run successfully.

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No you pay attention, I already said I understood it. But it dosen't matter if I understood it or not it was wrong, and that is what I called you out on. Then you had the idiocy to double down and claim it was a commonly used value.

So lets skip over wether I understood it or not, simply show me where it is a commonly used value. Or you going to be a giant hypocrite again?
If everyone else understood it then it must have been a common way of expressing one tenth of one percent. Get over yourself.

I'm not sure how else to get it thru thick head. Repeating the same thing that spured my question, does not answer my question. I'm not even sure how you think that answers my question. Because you said the exact same thing, so I still have the exact same question.

And again if they couldn't write something up to par with trump sitting right there. How would they write something that would work for trump with no input from him. And it goes back to what I originaly said how would they even know who was going to be president. You basically just want them to write random generic bills, for no reason. Because depending on who's final input goes into that bill, the whole random generic bill may have to be scraped as none of it may agree with who became president.

Who said I couldn't find it anywhere, I'm just not going to waste my time, because when I'm right you will make up some excuse then insult me, then run away so there is no point.

So you were businessman, and they were all ran succesfully. So your implying you were a great business man then since all were sucess. Hmm kinda contradicts what you have been saying.

Just because someone can understand, and comprehend your idiocy, in no way makes it common or correct. So again if it so common show me. I'll take just about any source at this point in time. Really its not me that needs to get over myself, that would be you, you were wrong, and your need to be right is so bad that you have insulted, you have deflected, you have outright lied. All to avoid admitting your wrong. Your arrogance is appaling, so you go ahead and get over yourself.
I'm done with your deflection, lieing, and just plain stupidity in this thread.

You mean your done, with your lying, deflecting, and stupidity in this thread. Because your the only one doing those things. And then you did your usual end argument, tatic. Try to flip all the things you did wrong on to me. I'm not shocked as this has become your usual pattern.

If your so tired of what I'm saying bill, why don't you shut me up. Give me a link that shows 1/10% is a common used value. I would feel like a giant jackass if it was. So why don't ya go ahead and put me in my place. Provide a source that backs what you say.
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If your so tired of what I'm saying bill, why don't you shut me up. Give me a link that shows 1/10% is a common used value. I would feel like a giant jackass if it was. So why don't ya go ahead and put me in my place. Provide a source that backs what you say.
You're an idiot who's too stupid to understand what everyone else does and wants a link to prove what everyone else already knows. If I said the key is blue you would want a link. Well Fuck off.
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If your so tired of what I'm saying bill, why don't you shut me up. Give me a link that shows 1/10% is a common used value. I would feel like a giant jackass if it was. So why don't ya go ahead and put me in my place. Provide a source that backs what you say.
You're an idiot who's too stupid to understand what everyone else does and wants a link to prove what everyone else already knows. If I said the key is blue you would want a link. Well Fuck off.

Again your speaking of yourself.. If everyone else knows this then a link should be real simple to provide. Simply say you can't provide a link,because what you said was incorrect. Come on bill it will feel good like weight lifted from your chest.
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The problem is the problem regardless of who is president. And, it still has to pass congress - regardless of who is president.

I don't subscribe to the notion of sitting around waiting to see who is president before writing a bill.

Look, I'm a member of the GOP. But, they've fucked this up just as much as the Democrats by sitting on their thumbs for the last several years. I mean, I get it - Obamacare made it rain with cash and entitlements for many. And, good luck pulling those back without a revolt. But, still, to have a half-assed plan like they did after 8 years of complaining? That's a failure.
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The problem is the problem regardless of who is president. And, it still has to pass congress - regardless of who is president.

I don't subscribe to the notion of sitting around waiting to see who is president before writing a bill.

Look, I'm a member of the GOP. But, they've fucked this up just as much as the Democrats by sitting on their thumbs for the last several years. I mean, I get it - Obamacare made it rain with cash and entitlements for many. And, good luck pulling those back without a revolt. But, still, to have a half-assed plan like they did after 8 years of complaining? That's a failure.

Here is the problem with that the basics for health care are all there, so a basic bill is no problem. But not knowing who will be in office or sitting in congress, it is impossible to write a final draft, as certain parts will have to cater to who is voting on it.

But the republicans actually havent just been sitting around.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...d-dozens-solu/
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Politifact rated that statement as "half-true". Not exactly a resounding endorsement.

Like I said, I get it - Obamacare created a lot of entitlements that are hard to roll back without causing a revolt. The GOP should not have made promises to repeal/replace and make healthcare more affordable. Obviously, they've realized they cannot come up with a bill that the Freedom Caucus will support. And, the bill they were working on was not going to make healthcare more affordable. It was just going to roll back the Obamacare granted entitlements - and maybe/hopefully/possibly/but not likely make premiums go down for the masses. In other words, it was a shit show.

But, given what they have to work with, its predictable. They just should not have said they could make it better. I don't see how they can without one of two things: massive entitlements i.e. government essentially starts paying for healthcare for most or entitlement roll backs which will cause a revolt and nonstop "we're killing people by denying them healthcare".

So, instead of arguing about who shot John, why don't we spitball ideas of how to make healthcare more affordable. How do we do that?



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I don't subscribe to the notion of sitting around waiting to see who is president before writing a bill.

Look, I'm a member of the GOP. But, they've fucked this up just as much as the Democrats by sitting on their thumbs for the last several years. I mean, I get it - Obamacare made it rain with cash and entitlements for many. And, good luck pulling those back without a revolt. But, still, to have a half-assed plan like they did after 8 years of complaining? That's a failure.

Here is the problem with that the basics for health care are all there, so a basic bill is no problem. But not knowing who will be in office or sitting in congress, it is impossible to write a final draft, as certain parts will have to cater to who is voting on it.

But the republicans actually havent just been sitting around.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...d-dozens-solu/
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Politifact rated that statement as "half-true". Not exactly a resounding endorsement.

Like I said, I get it - Obamacare created a lot of entitlements that are hard to roll back without causing a revolt. The GOP should not have made promises to repeal/replace and make healthcare more affordable. Obviously, they've realized they cannot come up with a bill that the Freedom Caucus will support. And, the bill they were working on was not going to make healthcare more affordable. It was just going to roll back the Obamacare granted entitlements - and maybe/hopefully/possibly/but not likely make premiums go down for the masses. In other words, it was a shit show.

But, given what they have to work with, its predictable. They just should not have said they could make it better. I don't see how they can without one of two things: massive entitlements i.e. government essentially starts paying for healthcare for most or entitlement roll backs which will cause a revolt and nonstop "we're killing people by denying them healthcare".

So, instead of arguing about who shot John, why don't we spitball ideas of how to make healthcare more affordable. How do we do that?



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Here is the problem with that the basics for health care are all there, so a basic bill is no problem. But not knowing who will be in office or sitting in congress, it is impossible to write a final draft, as certain parts will have to cater to who is voting on it.

But the republicans actually havent just been sitting around.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...d-dozens-solu/

Ya but it is better than what the left will have you believe. They went half true because they threw out a bunch of the bills the gop were claiming, as they were just the same bill reworded then tried to push thru again.


I agree with you, I don't see any fixes coming soon. I honestly thought with trump there would be new angle put on it. But it was the same old tired stuff they know won't work.

I honestly think their going to have to do a combo of things that are unpopular to make it work. One is going to be to regulate the healthcare system. and the other is the poor will have to pay their fair share. Both of which people will scream bloody murder over.
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