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Old 06-28-2017, 02:59 PM   #1
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Economy One good lie deserves another

Well since Trump's "lies" are such an issue, how about some of Obama's. We could go on about Jobs, such as the promised 5 million "green energy jobs" that could not be outsourced (such as Xun lite, Evergreen, etc.), the protection of the middle class, The fact the U.S. is no longer the world's largest manufactur, the twice the U.S. Credit rating was lowered, etc.

But lest talk about one that is undeniable, the U.S. National Debt. Obama say to cut the deficit by a third, but when he took office the debt was at 10.6 Trillion, the day before his first budget too effect (9/30/2009) it was at 11.9 Trillion. Today still several months away from the end of the Last Obama Budget, it stands at 19.8 Trillion, an increase of 7.9 Trillion, more then any other president in raw dollar, and a 67% increase, if you want to go by percentage, more then any other President in history, outside of a major (i.e. WWII) war.

How is this not his legacy?
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And this is what is wrong with the liberals. Obama fucked up things for future gereation for years to come. And your response is no one cares. But Trump being mis quoted, taken out of context, ect is your main focus. Mabey you need to stop and rethink your values.
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Excuse me, Iron, but you're having a go at a Democrat, which is silly.
Democrats ignore this as they know they are perfect and you're just being petty and trying to cover up for Trump's manifest failings.


Ask them to provide a genuine sample of a major Trump screw-up.
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Democrats ignore this as they know they are perfect and you're just being petty and trying to cover up for Trump's manifest failings.


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Well there's this, and on a larger scale this headline.
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Excuse me, Iron, but you're having a go at a Democrat, which is silly.
Democrats ignore this as they know they are perfect and you're just being petty and trying to cover up for Trump's manifest failings.


Ask them to provide a genuine sample of a major Trump screw-up.
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Well there's this, and on a larger scale this headline.

Well lets see your first story is more crap news, the lay offs at carrier have nothing to do with trumps deal. Liberals are trying to connect two unconnect things. Your second one I'm not sure where your goiong with that. Because estimates were off that is trumps fault. How does that work exactely.
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Yeah, but then neither is Obama's failure to create all those green jobs or keep the middle class alive.
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Well since Trump's "lies" are such an issue, how about some of Obama's.
Something you're apparently not aware of: Obama is no longer President. Try to keep up.
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But lest talk about one that is undeniable, the U.S. National Debt. Obama say to cut the deficit by a third, but when he took office the debt was at 10.6 Trillion, the day before his first budget too effect (9/30/2009) it was at 11.9 Trillion. Today still several months away from the end of the Last Obama Budget, it stands at 19.8 Trillion, an increase of 7.9 Trillion, more then any other president in raw dollar, and a 67% increase, if you want to go by percentage, more then any other President in history, outside of a major (i.e. WWII) war.

How is this not his legacy?
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And this is what's wrong with Repugnicans. Trump is fucking things up for us right now.
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But lest talk about one that is undeniable, the U.S. National Debt. Obama say to cut the deficit by a third, but when he took office the debt was at 10.6 Trillion, the day before his first budget too effect (9/30/2009) it was at 11.9 Trillion. Today still several months away from the end of the Last Obama Budget, it stands at 19.8 Trillion, an increase of 7.9 Trillion, more then any other president in raw dollar, and a 67% increase, if you want to go by percentage, more then any other President in history, outside of a major (i.e. WWII) war.

How is this not his legacy?
You're wrong and don't understand how anything works, as usual.

OK, I may only have a minor in Math, having taken up to Partial Differential equations, but how is it possible to have cut the Deficit by three quarters, and yet add more to the U.S. total dept then any other previous president? Really, how is such possible?
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Yeah, but then neither is Obama's failure to create all those green jobs or keep the middle class alive.

Wow lets compeletly defelect away from your initial statement. Obama's boondoogles way worse than even what your suggesting with trump. And again I will reppeat neither of your stories was a failure on trump. To even connect them you have to have a huge leap of faith.
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And this is what is wrong with the liberals. Obama fucked up things for future gereation for years to come.
And this is what's wrong with Repugnicans. Trump is fucking things up for us right now.

Tell me how. Everyone keeps saying this, but know one explains any further than that. Its a BS line that no one can seem to back.
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OK, I may only have a minor in Math, having taken up to Partial Differential equations, but how is it possible to have cut the Deficit by three quarters, and yet add more to the U.S. total dept then any other previous president? Really, how is such possible?

I got the answer to this one. Obama raised the deficit atronimical amounts, then we lowered the spending back to where it almost was before he was president, he then bragged about how much he lowered it. Obama never lowered the deficit, he just returned it back to where it was before his friviouls spending spree.
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And this is what's wrong with Repugnicans. Trump is fucking things up for us right now.

Tell me how. Everyone keeps saying this, but know one explains any further than that. Its a BS line that no one can seem to back.
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OK, I may only have a minor in Math, having taken up to Partial Differential equations, but how is it possible to have cut the Deficit by three quarters, and yet add more to the U.S. total dept then any other previous president? Really, how is such possible?
Because deficit != debt, as both links explain.
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