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Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies.
But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow
itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every
outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.




Jan. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.”
(He was for an invasion before he was against it.)

Jan. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times.
I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.”
(Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)

Jan. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.”
(There's no evidence of illegal voting.)

Jan. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive.
Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.”
(Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)

Jan. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)”
(The report never mentioned voter fraud.)

Jan. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.”
(The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)

Jan. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very
nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.”
(There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)

Jan. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them.
They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers.
How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have
no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.”
(Vetting lasts up to two years.)

Jan. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions
of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours,
and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.”
(Most of the cuts were already planned.)

Jan. 28 “The coverage about me in the nytimes and the Washington Post has been so false
and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.”
(It never apologized.)

Jan. 29 “The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.”
(There is no support for this.)

Jan. 30 “Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning.
Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.”
(At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.)




Feb. 3 “Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the
millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
(There is no evidence of paid protesters.)

Feb. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning
the election, the FAKE NEWS nytimes is still lost!”
(It never apologized.)

Feb. 5 “We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was
vet those people very, very carefully.”
(About 60,000 people were affected.)

Feb. 6 “I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation
on the F-35.”
(Much of the price drop was projected before Trump took office.)

Feb. 6 “It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported.And in many
cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.”
(Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.)

Feb. 6 “The failing nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor
reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!”
(It didn't apologize.)

Feb. 6 “And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been
in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out.
It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.”
(The group’s origins date to 2004.)

Feb. 7 “And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right?
Did you know that? Forty-seven years.”
(It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.)

Feb. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.”
(The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.)

Feb. 9 “Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term
lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!”
(It was part of Cuomo's first question.)

Feb. 9 Sen. Richard Blumenthal “now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?”
(The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.)

Feb. 10 “I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?”
(Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.)

Feb. 12 “Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the
FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!”
(The media did cover it.)

Feb. 16 “We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's
the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.”
(George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.)

Feb. 16 “That’s the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports.”
(Delta's problems happened two days later.)

Feb. 16 “Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because
of our various plans and initiatives.”
(The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in October 2016.)

Feb. 16 “When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re
not giving classified information.”
(Not always. They have released classified information in the past.)

Feb. 16 “We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court.
Got a bad decision.”
(The rollout was chaotic.)

Feb. 16 “They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates.
Which, by the way, nobody mentions.
Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.”
(It was widely covered.)

Feb. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation.
There was no nothing.”
(Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.)

Feb. 18 “You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden.
Sweden, who would believe this?”
(Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.)

Feb. 24 “By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.”
(There was no evidence of long lines.)

Feb. 24 “ICE came and endorsed me.”
(Only its union did.)

Feb. 24 “Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people
that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.”
(Obamacare increased coverage by a net of about 20 million.)

Feb. 27 “Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have
stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.”
(Many fewer pulled out.)

Feb. 27 “On one plane, on a small order of one plane, I saved $725 million. And I would say
I devoted about, if I added it up, all those calls, probably about an hour.
So I think that might be my highest and best use.”
(Much of the price cut was already projected.)

Feb. 28 “And now, based on our very strong and frank discussions, they are beginning to do just that.”
(NATO countries agreed to meet defense spending requirements in 2014.)

Feb. 28 “The E.P.A.’s regulators were putting people out of jobs by the hundreds of thousands.”
(There's no evidence that the Waters of the United States rule caused severe job losses.)

Feb. 28 “We have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by imposing a five-year ban on
lobbying by executive branch officials.”
(They can't lobby their former agency but can still become lobbyists.)
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March 3 “It is so pathetic that the Dems have still not approved my full Cabinet.”
(Paperwork for the last two candidates was still not submitted to the Senate.)

March 4 “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just
before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”
(There's no evidence of a wiretap.)

March 4 “How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election
process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!”
(There's no evidence of a wiretap.)

March 7 “122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from
Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!”
(113 of them were released by President George W. Bush.)

March 13 “I saved a lot of money on those jets, didn't I? Did I do a good job? More
than $725 million on them.”
(Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)

March 13 “First of all, it covers very few people.”
(About 20 million people gained insurance under Obamacare.)

March 15 “On the airplanes, I saved $725 million. Probably took me a half an
hour if you added up all of the times.”
(Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)

March 17 “I was in Tennessee — I was just telling the folks — and half of the state
has no insurance company, and the other half is going to lose the insurance company.”
(There's at least one insurer in every Tennessee county.)

March 20 “With just one negotiation on one set of airplanes, I saved the
taxpayers of our country over $700 million.”
(Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)

March 21 “To save taxpayer dollars, I’ve already begun negotiating better contracts for
the federal government — saving over $700 million on just one set of airplanes of
which there are many sets.”
(Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)

March 22 “I make the statement, everyone goes crazy. The next day they have a
massive riot, and death, and problems.”
(Riots in Sweden broke out two days later and there were no deaths.)

March 22 “NATO, obsolete, because it doesn’t cover terrorism. They fixed that.”
(It has fought terrorism since the 1980s.)

March 22 “Well, now, if you take a look at the votes, when I say that, I mean mostly
they register wrong — in other words, for the votes, they register incorrectly and/or
illegally. And they then vote. You have tremendous numbers of people.”
(There's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.)

March 29 “Remember when the failing nytimes apologized to its subscribers, right
after the election, because their coverage was so wrong. Now worse!”
(It didn't apologize.)

March 31 “We have a lot of plants going up now in Michigan that were never going to
be there if I — if I didn’t win this election, those plants would never even think
about going back. They were gone.”
(These investments were already planned.)





April 2 “And I was totally opposed to the war in the Middle East which I think finally has
been proven, people tried very hard to say I wasn’t but you’ve seen that it is now improving.”
(He was for an invasion before he was against it.)

April 2 “Now, my last tweet — you know, the one that you are talking about, perhaps
— was the one about being, in quotes, wiretapped, meaning surveilled.
Guess what, it is turning out to be true.”
(There is still no evidence.)

April 5 “You have many states coming up where they’re going to have no insurance
company. O.K.? It’s already happened in Tennessee. It’s happening in Kentucky.
Tennessee only has half coverage. Half the state is gone. They left.”
(Every marketplace region in Tennessee had atleast one insurer.)

April 6 “If you look at the kind of cost-cutting we’ve been able to achieve with the
military and at the same time ordering vast amounts of equipment — saved hundreds
of millions of dollars on airplanes, and really billions, because if you take that out
over a period of years it’s many billions of dollars — I think we’ve had a tremendous success.”
(Much of the price cuts were already projected.)

April 11 “I like Steve, but you have to remember he was not involved in my campaign
until very late. I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and I didn’t know Steve.”
(He knew Steve Bannon since 2011.)

April 12 “You can't do it faster, because they're obstructing. They're obstructionists.
So I have people — hundreds of people that we're trying to get through. I mean you
have — you see the backlog. We can't get them through.”
(At this point, he had not nominated anyone for hundreds of positions.)

April 12 “The New York Times said the word wiretapped in the headline of the
first edition. Then they took it out of there fast when they realized.”
(There were separate headlines for print and web, but neither were altered.)

April 12 “The secretary general and I had a productive discussion about what more
NATO can do in the fight against terrorism. I complained about that a long time ago
and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism.”
(NATO has been engaged in counterterrorism efforts since the 1980s.)

April 12 “Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they’ve been fighting
it for many months and so many more people died.”
(The campaign was expected to take months.)

April 16 “Someone should look into who paid for the small organized rallies yesterday.
The election is over!”
(There's no evidence of paid protesters.)

April 18 “The fake media goes, ‘Donald Trump changed his stance on China.’
I haven’t changed my stance.”
(He did.)

April 21 “On 90 planes I saved $725 million. It's actually a little bit more than
that, but it's $725 million.”
(Much of the price cuts were already projected.)

April 21 “When WikiLeaks came out … never heard of WikiLeaks, never heard of it.”
(He criticized it as early as 2010.)

April 27 “I want to help our miners while the Democrats are blocking their healthcare.”
(The bill to extend health benefits for certain coal miners was introduced by a
Democrat and was co-sponsored by mostly Democrats.)

April 28 “The trade deficit with Mexico is close to $70 billion, even with Canada it’s $17 billion
trade deficit with Canada.”
(The U.S. had an $8.1 billion trade surplus, not deficit, with Canada in 2016.)

April 28 “She's running against someone who's going to raise your taxes to the sky, destroy
your health care, and he's for open borders — lots of crime.”
(Those are not Jon Ossoff's positions.)

April 28 “The F-35 fighter jet program — it was way over budget. I’ve saved $725
million plus, just by getting involved in the negotiation.”
(Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.)

April 29 “They're incompetent, dishonest people who after an election had to apologize
because they covered it, us, me, but all of us, they covered it so badly that they felt they
were forced to apologize because their predictions were so bad.”
(The Times did not apologize.)

April 29 “As you know, I've been a big critic of China, and I've been talking about
currency manipulation for a long time.
But I have to tell you that during the election, number one, they stopped.”
(China stopped years ago.)

April 29 “I've already saved more than $725 million on a simple order of F-35 planes.
I got involved in the negotiation.”
(Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.)

April 29 “We're also getting NATO countries to finally step up and contribute their fair share.
They've begun to increase their contributions by billions of dollars, but we
are not going to be satisfied until everyone pays what they owe.”
(The deal was struck in 2014.)

April 29 “When they talk about currency manipulation, and I did say I would call
China, if they were, a currency manipulator, early in my tenure. And then I get there.
Number one, they — as soon as I got elected, they stopped.”
(China stopped in 2014.)

April 29 “I was negotiating to reduce the price of the big fighter jet contract, the F-35,
which was totally out of control.
I will save billions and billions and billions of dollars.”
(Most of the cuts were planned before Trump.)

April 29 “I think our side's been proven very strongly. And everybody's talking about it.”
(There's still no evidence Trump's phones were tapped.)
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May 1 “Well, we are protecting pre-existing conditions. And it'll be every good — bit as
good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare.”
(The bill weakens protections for people with pre-existing conditions.)

May 1 “The F-35 fighter jet — I saved — I got involved in the negotiation. It's 2,500 jets.
I negotiated for 90 planes, lot 10. I got $725 million off the price.”
(Much of the price cuts were planned before Trump.)

May 1 “First of all, since I started running, they haven't increased their — you know, they
have not manipulated their currency.
I think that was out of respect to me and the campaign.”
(China stopped years ago.)

May 2 “I love buying those planes at a reduced price.
I have been really — I have cut billions — I have to tell you this, and they can check, right, Martha?
I have cut billions and billions of dollars off plane contracts sitting here.”
(Much of the cost cuts were planned before Trump.)

May 4 “Number two, they’re actually not a currency [manipulator]. You know, since I’ve been
talking about currency manipulation with respect to them and other countries, they stopped.”
(China stopped years ago.)

May 4 “We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world.”
(We're not.)

May 4 “Nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters.”
(Polls show most Americans do care.)

May 8 “You know we’ve gotten billions of dollars more in NATO than we’re getting.
All because of me.”
(The deal was struck in 2014.)

May 8 “But when I did his show, which by the way was very highly rated. It was
high — highest rating. The highest rating he’s ever had.”
(Colbert's “Late Show” debut had nearly two million more viewers.)

May 8 “Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already
knows — there is ‘no evidence’ of collusion w/ Russia and Trump.”
(Clapper only said he wasn't aware of an investigation.)

May 12 “Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump
campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.”
(The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.)

May 12 “When James Clapper himself, and virtually everyone else with knowledge of
the witch hunt, says there is no collusion, when does it end?”
(Clapper said he wouldn't have been told of an investigation into collusion.)

May 13 “I'm cutting the price of airplanes with Lockheed.”
(The cost cuts were planned before he became president.)

May 26 “Just arrived in Italy for the G7. Trip has been very successful.
We made and saved the USA many billions of dollars
and millions of jobs.”
(He's referencing an arms deal that's not enacted and other apparent
deals that weren't announced on the trip.)






June 1 “China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants.
So, we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this agreement.
India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.”
(The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.)

June 1 “I’ve just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly
$350 billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating
hundreds of thousands of jobs.”
(Trump’s figures are inflated and premature.)

June 4 “At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London
says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’”
(The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets.)

June 5 “The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the
watered down, politically correct version they submitted to S.C.”
(Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department.)J

June 21 “They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.”
(The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and
Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal.

June 21 “Right now, we are one of the highest-taxed nations in the world.”
(We're not.)
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Pick and choose your interpretations.

May 12 “Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.”
(The F.B.I. was investigating before the election.
The FBI received a copy of the Democrat-funded dossier in August, during the heat of the campaign, and is said to have contracted in October to pay Steele $50,000 to help corroborate the dirt on Trump — a relationship that “raises substantial questions about the independence” of the bureau in investigating Trump, warned Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa.
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June 1 “China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So, we can’t build the plants, but
they can, according to this agreement. India will be allowed to double its coal production by 2020.”
(The agreement doesn’t allow or disallow building coal plants.)
It just says the US must cut emissions. They can't do this if the build a new power station.

June 1 “I’ve just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.”
(Trump’s figures are inflated and premature - Which is typical for any politician saying what they've done,)

\June 4 “At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’”
(The mayor was specifically talking about the enlarged police presence on the streets. Really. Increased police presence and bodies lying around but don't be alarmed. )

June 5 “The Justice Dept. should have stayed with the original Travel Ban, not the watered down, politically
correct version they submitted to S.C.”
(Trump signed this version of the travel ban, not the Justice Department. But he didn't write it. The Justice department did. Are you saying he should have overridden what the Justice Department did? Then you'd complain about that.)

June 21 “They all say it's 'nonbinding.' Like hell it's nonbinding.”
(The Paris climate agreement is nonbinding — and Trump said so in his speech announcing the withdrawal. Which was one of his better decisions. The Democrats certainly considered it to be binding.)

CNN confesses to making yet more 'mistakes' in savaging Trump. And a CNN producer is caught on tape admitting its claims of Trump colluding with Russia is "mostly bullshit" that it's pushing to get better ratings.
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Instead of the nit-picking, state one major stuff-up that Trump has made since becoming President.
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Your a joke huck I didn't even read the whole thing but on May first on health care. That is two different quotes mashed together and taken out of context. Your full of lies. You can't even print what the president actually said because then you would have nothing to bitch about.

What trump really said
“I want it to be good for sick people. It’s not in its final form right now," he said during an Oval Office interview Monday with Bloomberg News. "It will be every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare."

Oh what is that he wanted to change it to protect preexisting conditions. That fucking blows everything you just wrote out of the water. If you can't do exact quotes in context the your a fucking joke that needs to grow up.
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In 2009 when the lies of President Obama and the entire Democratic Party were becoming more and more apparent, the left defense was "ALL POLITICIANS LIE", as if it was just an acceptable fact of American politics. Why it is now such an issue?
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This bullshit list comes from the NY Times. a/k/a "Fake News" LOL

I find it interesting that nothing is put into context at all. Just deem it a lie and move on. And, this is why a large portion of America doesn't trust the media anymore. They have an agenda.

Remember when they posted all of Obama's lies? Yeah, me neither? Same with Hillary.

I'd rather have an inartful boaster than someone who lies about big things like healthcare "you can keep your plan, doctor..." Or, "we lied to them...American people are stupid".

At least we know which American people Gruber was referring to when he said people were stupid.

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L i e s


Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies.
But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow
itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every
outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.








Jan. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very
nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.”
(There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) on THAT day... There were 50 murders in Chicago during January. Mostly black people. Obama's speech was on Jan 10th

Jan. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them.
They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers.
How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have
no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.”
(Vetting lasts up to two years.)

Jan. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions
of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours,
and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.”
(Most of the cuts were already planned.)



Feb. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning
the election, the FAKE NEWS nytimes is still lost!”
(It never apologized.) i see you got this from the NY Times. It IS fake news. LOL







Feb. 6 “And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been
in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out.
It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.”
(The group’s origins date to 2004.) Yes, any simpleton knows that ISIS rose from the ashes of AQ in Iraq. But, they group was largely decimated during the surge in Iraq. Obama came in and breathed life into ISIS. Obama owns ISIS. That's true. He allowed them to take over large swaths of Iraq, Syria and Libya.



Feb. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.”
(The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.)

Feb. 9 “Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term
lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!”
(It was part of Cuomo's first question.) And, this is why Politifact is a partisan piece of work. Cuomo allowed him to not only dodge the question but simply not answer it. With no followup. Blumenthal to question someone's ethics is rich... The man lied about being in Vietnam. Period.






Feb. 16 “They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions.
Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.”
(It was widely covered.) Well, the Washpo covered it. An unapologetic Brazile says she'd do it again. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...llary-clinton/

Feb. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation.
There was no nothing.”
(Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.) Please tell us how you do a background check on someone that is coming out of Raqqa, Syria. Or, for that matter, Iran. Or Pyongyang (hell, NK ought to be on the list, too) We going to send in DHS agents to do knock and talks? LOL

Feb. 18 “You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?”
(Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.) But there was just a few weeks later in Stockholm in April. Yeah, you don't hear much about this criticism of Trump these days.

Feb. 24 “By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.”
(There was no evidence of long lines.) Most of his speaking engagements have long lines of people waiting to get in.

Feb. 24 “ICE came and endorsed me.”
(Only its union did.) Which is even more telling.

Feb. 27 “Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have
stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.”
(Many fewer pulled out.) WRONG

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This bullshit list comes from the NY Times. a/k/a "Fake News" LOL

I find it interesting that nothing is put into context at all. Just deem it a lie and move on. And, this is why a large portion of America doesn't trust the media anymore. They have an agenda.

Remember when they posted all of Obama's lies? Yeah, me neither? Same with Hillary.

I'd rather have an inartful boaster than someone who lies about big things like healthcare "you can keep your plan, doctor..." Or, "we lied to them...American people are stupid".

At least we know which American people Gruber was referring to when he said people were stupid.

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Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies.
But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow
itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every
outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.








Jan. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very
nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.”
(There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) on THAT day... There were 50 murders in Chicago during January. Mostly black people. Obama's speech was on Jan 10th

Jan. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them.
They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers.
How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have
no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.”
(Vetting lasts up to two years.)

Jan. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions
of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours,
and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.”
(Most of the cuts were already planned.)



Feb. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning
the election, the FAKE NEWS nytimes is still lost!”
(It never apologized.) i see you got this from the NY Times. It IS fake news. LOL







Feb. 6 “And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been
in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out.
It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.”
(The group’s origins date to 2004.) Yes, any simpleton knows that ISIS rose from the ashes of AQ in Iraq. But, they group was largely decimated during the surge in Iraq. Obama came in and breathed life into ISIS. Obama owns ISIS. That's true. He allowed them to take over large swaths of Iraq, Syria and Libya.



Feb. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.”
(The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.)

Feb. 9 “Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term
lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!”
(It was part of Cuomo's first question.) And, this is why Politifact is a partisan piece of work. Cuomo allowed him to not only dodge the question but simply not answer it. With no followup. Blumenthal to question someone's ethics is rich... The man lied about being in Vietnam. Period.






Feb. 16 “They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions.
Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.”
(It was widely covered.) Well, the Washpo covered it. An unapologetic Brazile says she'd do it again. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...llary-clinton/

Feb. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation.
There was no nothing.”
(Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.) Please tell us how you do a background check on someone that is coming out of Raqqa, Syria. Or, for that matter, Iran. Or Pyongyang (hell, NK ought to be on the list, too) We going to send in DHS agents to do knock and talks? LOL

Feb. 18 “You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?”
(Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.) But there was just a few weeks later in Stockholm in April. Yeah, you don't hear much about this criticism of Trump these days.

Feb. 24 “By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.”
(There was no evidence of long lines.) Most of his speaking engagements have long lines of people waiting to get in.

Feb. 24 “ICE came and endorsed me.”
(Only its union did.) Which is even more telling.

Feb. 27 “Since Obamacare went into effect, nearly half of the insurers are stopped and have
stopped from participating in the Obamacare exchanges.”
(Many fewer pulled out.) WRONG


Dude, you regularly link to the New York Post, so whataboutism or not, you're not coming from a position of strength at all.
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"Wire tapping"

Or completely breaking his promises when it comes to healthcare. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about if he can endorse the House and Senate bills and still believe he's anything more than a joke.
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Jan. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.”
(There's no evidence of illegal voting.)


This a debatable point.


You say there is no evidence, but yet Ray Stevens own family has proof it happened. Both of my parents are still on the voter rolls in my district (I live in the same district as my parents) and every time I have voted here, I have seen marks next to both of there names as having had voted! A friend of mine in other states has seen the same for his dead mother! Sorry, but say there is no evidence, and repeating it over and over, does not make it any more true!

The read sad part is every after all this cheating, the Democrats still lose!
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Instead of the nit-picking, state one major stuff-up that Trump has made since becoming President.

"Wire tapping"

Or completely breaking his promises when it comes to healthcare. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about if he can endorse the House and Senate bills and still believe he's anything more than a joke.

Please do elaborate shu. I got to hear this one. Are those the two things you really want to hang your hat on.
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What is your point? I mean, for real?

The NY Times is often pointed to as some standard bearer of news. Here's a tip, Sparky, its a partisan hack paper.

And, in the thread Darthbob88 goes on about right wing/left wing, blah, blah... The NY Times produces this list - no context and all deemed to be "lies". Many aren't. Most are just stupid boasts.

Again, your point?

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"Wire tapping"

Or completely breaking his promises when it comes to healthcare. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about if he can endorse the House and Senate bills and still believe he's anything more than a joke.
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What is your point? I mean, for real?

The NY Times is often pointed to as some standard bearer of news. Here's a tip, Sparky, its a partisan hack paper.

And, in the thread Darthbob88 goes on about right wing/left wing, blah, blah... The NY Times produces this list - no context and all deemed to be "lies". Many aren't. Most are just stupid boasts.

Again, your point?

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"Wire tapping"

Or completely breaking his promises when it comes to healthcare. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about if he can endorse the House and Senate bills and still believe he's anything more than a joke.

My point (which you didn't quote correctly) is that someone who touts a tabloid like the NY Post while shitting on the NYT is a hack who shouldn't be trusted. No one has said that it's perfect, but it's still some of the best reporting this side of the Atlantic.

Speaking of that thread, it was kind of pathetic to see your responses, as it seems to indicate you think that "news" is somehow only obtained through 24 hour networks. That's the only conclusion I can reach if, when confronted with the fact that you were shitting on the WSJ, you immediately jump to attacking CNN.
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