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Old 06-26-2017, 03:03 PM   #61
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LOL, you sound like a little baby.

I just pointed out some fake CNN news stories which you turn a blind eye to... Who's the partisan whacko now? Look in the mirror, sparky.

Not starting off the week on the right foot, huh champ?

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Even the WSJ doesn't like Trump. They can't control him like they can traditional presidents.

Why do you think Fox News is so popular?


Because it's chryons have bigger text and its reporting matches the quality of the chain letters that its average member receives?
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LOL, you sound like a little baby.

I just pointed out some fake CNN news stories which you turn a blind eye to... Who's the partisan whacko now? Look in the mirror, sparky.

Not starting off the week on the right foot, huh champ?

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Because it's chryons have bigger text and its reporting matches the quality of the chain letters that its average member receives?

You asked why I thought Fox News was so popular compared to other 24 hour news channels. I answered. That doesn't excuse CNN from whatever it's doing, but it's interesting how you respond to the RWNJ echo chamber excluding noteworthy, well-reputed publications like the NYT and WSJ with "but muh CNN."
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Old 06-26-2017, 08:26 PM   #63
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No. You missed my point. Fox News is (and has been) popular because it isn't the left wing echo chamber.

Dude, I have a CNN news app on my phone. Literally every single day, I get alerted to some anti-Trump news piece. Some of it has proved to be fake. Don't even get me started on MSNBC. Although, that show with Rachel Maddow claiming to have Trump's tax returns click to show was delightful. And, I'm sure it made Geraldo Rivera extra happy as now she owns the Al Capone's vault "record".

Just today I got an alert where they talked about the differences in state medicaid between TX and AR and the sad situation of some patient who is suffering because of it. Yes, its sad. But, when does CNN do stories on people whose premiums under Obama were so high they literally couldn't afford to go to the doctor? Sure, they now had insurance. But, couldn't afford to use it. You'd think they'd dedicate just as many resources to that, wouldn't you? Of course they wouldn't. Because they have an agenda.

Another example, the hard hitting analytical piece of a dictator who gets more ice cream than his guests...

Maybe those are reasons why people feel the way they do about "news".



Er, you can say what you want about CNN, but they don't believe that Sandy Hook was a false flag. Or that a DNC staffer was assassinated by a HRC-sponsored hitman. Or that the main takeaway from the largest protest in American history was "Madonna said some mean things." Aka, "things that Infowars, Fox News, and Breitbart" push.

Like, ffs: number of Pulitzers won by "the leftwing echo chamber" vs. number of Pulitzers won by the shitty WordPress blogs that make up the RWNJ echo chamber should be a quick check before you make your typical bullshit false equivalence.


You mean fox news questioned the information that was spoon fed to them. Shocking a news orginazation doing its job and investigating a story because some facts didn't add up. Dear lord the horrors how dare they.

Mabey you should check into who is in charge of handing out Pulitzers. Guess what their a whole board of liberals, that even better elect their cronies to the board, with no oversight as to who they elect to the board. So ya that's a not good judgment as to what is good journalism.
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Like, ffs: number of Pulitzers won by "the leftwing echo chamber" vs. number of Pulitzers won by the shitty WordPress blogs that make up the RWNJ echo chamber should be a quick check before you make your typical bullshit false equivalence.
Not really, since that'll just prove that the Pulitzers are also part of the left-wing echo chamber, which is apparently also large enough to include the Wall Street Journal.


And it is part of the left wing echo chamber, look at who the board is made up of. In addition to that one winner even said I had to become a conservative basher before my work would be recognized.
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Actually...

Well, at least you don't excuse CNN from being, well, fake news.

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LOL, you sound like a little baby.

I just pointed out some fake CNN news stories which you turn a blind eye to... Who's the partisan whacko now? Look in the mirror, sparky.

Not starting off the week on the right foot, huh champ?


You asked why I thought Fox News was so popular compared to other 24 hour news channels. I answered. That doesn't excuse CNN from whatever it's doing, but it's interesting how you respond to the RWNJ echo chamber excluding noteworthy, well-reputed publications like the NYT and WSJ with "but muh CNN."
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No. You missed my point. Fox News is (and has been) popular because it isn't the left wing echo chamber.
Mm. Now explain why it wasn't popular, apart from the obvious answer, that for a while last year Fox News joined the left-wing echo chamber. You know, that noted leftist news outlet Fox Fucking News.

No, the left echo chamber isn't just anything that says unkind things about Trump, because it didn't include Fox News even when they were disliking him, nor is it anything that says nice things about the Democrats, because it does include the Wall Street Journal and the Economist. It's just anybody I can rely on to tell me the truth about the world, whether or not it supports my politics.
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I don't even know the point you're trying to make anymore.

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No. You missed my point. Fox News is (and has been) popular because it isn't the left wing echo chamber.
Mm. Now explain why it wasn't popular, apart from the obvious answer, that for a while last year Fox News joined the left-wing echo chamber. You know, that noted leftist news outlet Fox Fucking News.

No, the left echo chamber isn't just anything that says unkind things about Trump, because it didn't include Fox News even when they were disliking him, nor is it anything that says nice things about the Democrats, because it does include the Wall Street Journal and the Economist. It's just anybody I can rely on to tell me the truth about the world, whether or not it supports my politics.
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I don't even know the point you're trying to make anymore.
You argued that Fox News was and is popular on the right because it rejects the standard left-wing agenda. However the study I posted notes that for a chunk of last year, it was unpopular on the right. Explain, if you please.
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Because Fox News is fair and balanced?

That article you posted is the ramblings of mad men. Jesus Christ. CNN is fake news. MSNBC is fake news. Fox News is fake news.

You and the authors seem to think that because a news source has been around a long time that they are more reputable and aren't suspect to jumping on a band wagon and showing favoritism. CNN's agenda is anything anti-Trump. As is MSNBC. That Fox News wasn't completely pro-Trump at the beginning of the election cycle is what? news? They, like many people, didn't think he had a snowball's chance in hell.

Take a look around. All this talk centered around "Collusion with Russia" and not one iota of proof. Nothing. So, now its about trying to nail Trump on firing Comey.

I'm not sure what you think you're pointing out here. So Fox News wasn't the center of the right wing universe. Ok, so? If they were, you'd just say, "See, they are a right wing echo chamber!"

Again, what's the point?

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I don't even know the point you're trying to make anymore.
You argued that Fox News was and is popular on the right because it rejects the standard left-wing agenda. However the study I posted notes that for a chunk of last year, it was unpopular on the right. Explain, if you please.
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... Take a look around. All this talk centered around "Collusion with Russia" and not one iota of proof. Nothing. So, now its about trying to nail Trump on firing Comey. ...
Careful there buddy, you may be defending the Trumpeteers too soon and end up with a face full of egg. At this point Mueller is just getting started and a good deal of testimony given to Congress has been behind closed doors.
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Because Fox News is fair and balanced?
I wasn't expecting that open an answer, but I'll accept it.
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I'm not sure what you think you're pointing out here. So Fox News wasn't the center of the right wing universe. Ok, so? If they were, you'd just say, "See, they are a right wing echo chamber!"

Again, what's the point?
Actually, Fox News is mostly irrelevant to that point, because I can still point to Breitbart as the current center of the right-wing echosphere. My real point is that Fox News isn't popular because it refuses to parrot the left-wing agenda and speaks the un-PC truth. If that was the case, it wouldn't have slipped the way it did, it would have continued to be popular as it continued to oppose the leftist agenda. Fox News is in fact popular because, and when, it parrots the right-wing agenda. It is no more fair or balanced than MSNBC, it just says what conservatives want to hear.

E: I kinda have to compare your left-wing agenda to the conspiracy to suppress stories about Bat Boy. Daily Kos, Wall Street Journal, and the New York Times might be colluding to keep the truth under wraps, or they might just be independently reporting the truth. Which do you think is more likely?
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Look, all I know is that Bernie Sanders and his wife stand a better chance of being convicted of something at this point rather than Donald Trump. Who say Bernie Sanders being investigated for fraud coming?



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Careful there buddy, you may be defending the Trumpeteers too soon and end up with a face full of egg. At this point Mueller is just getting started and a good deal of testimony given to Congress has been behind closed doors.
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Well, looky what we have here:

John Bonifield, CNN Producer Says Russia Narrative "Mostly bullshit right now"
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Oh dear...

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/27/..spamspamspamspamssia-threat/
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